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Mark Miller commented on LUCENE-2878:
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bq. I don't like PayloadSpanUtil either, i think its a huge trap and it should 
move to src/test or be removed.

It's not that bad of a trap :) I has warnings all over it - some people use it 
out there. I think it's more useful than trapful - if not just as demo code.

It is src/test quality at best though though. I never would have committed it 
to core - I expected to put it in contrib at best. But someone else committed 
it at the time, so I just did a 'meh' and put warnings about experimental on 
it. I forgot to take it out of the patch on the issue or something. I never 
even used it or tested it much myself - I just wanted to put in some 
example/test code for this use case - I know some users on the list have used 
it for some form of simple highlighting, where the coords to highlight are in 
the payloads. I wouldn't trust it these days though :)

It will be found less if its in src/tests, but that is probably a fine place 
for it - it would need some love/support above what it has to really make sense 
in any module/contrib. I've never really meant to maintain it myself - and I've 
never really felt it belonged in core (just never had the itch to squash it 
either).

> Allow Scorer to expose positions and payloads aka. nuke spans 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LUCENE-2878
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2878
>             Project: Lucene - Java
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Search
>    Affects Versions: Bulk Postings branch
>            Reporter: Simon Willnauer
>            Assignee: Simon Willnauer
>         Attachments: LUCENE-2878.patch
>
>
> Currently we have two somewhat separate types of queries, the one which can 
> make use of positions (mainly spans) and payloads (spans). Yet Span*Query 
> doesn't really do scoring comparable to what other queries do and at the end 
> of the day they are duplicating lot of code all over lucene. Span*Queries are 
> also limited to other Span*Query instances such that you can not use a 
> TermQuery or a BooleanQuery with SpanNear or anthing like that. 
> Beside of the Span*Query limitation other queries lacking a quiet interesting 
> feature since they can not score based on term proximity since scores doesn't 
> expose any positional information. All those problems bugged me for a while 
> now so I stared working on that using the bulkpostings API. I would have done 
> that first cut on trunk but TermScorer is working on BlockReader that do not 
> expose positions while the one in this branch does. I started adding a new 
> Positions class which users can pull from a scorer, to prevent unnecessary 
> positions enums I added ScorerContext#needsPositions and eventually 
> Scorere#needsPayloads to create the corresponding enum on demand. Yet, 
> currently only TermQuery / TermScorer implements this API and other simply 
> return null instead. 
> To show that the API really works and our BulkPostings work fine too with 
> positions I cut over TermSpanQuery to use a TermScorer under the hood and 
> nuked TermSpans entirely. A nice sideeffect of this was that the Position 
> BulkReading implementation got some exercise which now :) work all with 
> positions while Payloads for bulkreading are kind of experimental in the 
> patch and those only work with Standard codec. 
> So all spans now work on top of TermScorer ( I truly hate spans since today ) 
> including the ones that need Payloads (StandardCodec ONLY)!!  I didn't bother 
> to implement the other codecs yet since I want to get feedback on the API and 
> on this first cut before I go one with it. I will upload the corresponding 
> patch in a minute. 
> I also had to cut over SpanQuery.getSpans(IR) to 
> SpanQuery.getSpans(AtomicReaderContext) which I should probably do on trunk 
> first but after that pain today I need a break first :).
> The patch passes all core tests 
> (org.apache.lucene.search.highlight.HighlighterTest still fails but I didn't 
> look into the MemoryIndex BulkPostings API yet)

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