I agree about differentiating the mutable part (configoverlay, generated
schema, etc) and the immutable (the configset) , but I think it would be
better if the mutable part is placed under /collections/x/..., otherwise
"/configs" would have a mix of ConfigSets and collection-specific
configuration.

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Noble Paul <noble.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think this needs more discussion
>
> When a collection is created we should have two things
>
> an immutable part and a mutable part
>
> for instance my collection name is "x" and it uses schemaless example conf
>
> I must now have two conf dirs
>
> configs/schemaless and
> configs/x
>
> all the mutable stuff goes to configs/x
>
> and config/schemaless remains immutable
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:23 AM, Tomás Fernández Löbbe <
> tomasflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think this is fine.I don't think we need a new concept of "config
>> templates", we just need to make it clear that the configset used to create
>> the collection is not modified by Solr, and that any change done via API
>> only affects the single collection where the config command is issued.
>>
>> I guess the schema API should start using something like configoverlay,
>> or maybe persist the updated schema to this new path?
>>
>> Tomás
>>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Noble Paul <noble.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with you on the point that it causes confusion.
>>>
>>> My suggestion would be to have something called "config templates" and
>>> they are immutable . So , we don't need a configset API
>>> each collection have it's own conf folder .
>>>
>>> So, when a collection is created we should go ahead and create a
>>> corresponding conf dir.
>>>
>>> Ideally, it should not copy over all configs from it's template. It
>>> should just store the configoverlay.json, params.json in the collection's
>>> conf directory and inherit the rest from the template
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Tomás Fernández Löbbe <
>>> tomasflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think the concept of ConfigSets has become a bit confusing with the
>>>> Config APIs (I'm thinking in SolrCloud mode here). Solr requires that a
>>>> configset is pushed to ZooKeeper before creating a collection that uses it.
>>>> It supports multiple collections using the same configset, which I think is
>>>> great. You could also have a couple of configsets that no collection is
>>>> currently using (who knows, maybe one that was recently deprecated, or that
>>>> will be used soon, etc). This gives me the idea that configsets are a
>>>> separate entity than the collection, not just a collection's configuration.
>>>>
>>>> Config APIs allow you to operate on a collection to add handlers,
>>>> change settings, etc. The problem is that you are not really applying the
>>>> changes to the collection but to the complete configset. All collections
>>>> using it will get the changes, and all of them will be reloaded after a
>>>> change.
>>>>
>>>> Shouldn't those APIs be at a different level/outside the collection?
>>>> Maybe a configset API? Or, maybe the configs (for example, the
>>>> configoverlay.json) should only apply to the collection where the API call
>>>> was made and not to other collections using the configset?
>>>>
>>>> Tomás
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>> Noble Paul
>>>
>>
>>
>
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> Noble Paul
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