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Keith Laban commented on SOLR-8220:
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[~ysee...@gmail.com]: re. * vs **

I'm all for using just one glob pattern {{*}} for both doc values and stored, 
however I think its worth it to consider the philosophical implications on 
backwards compat. While it won't break anything it does introduce some 
unexpected behavior without much warning or a way to disable it.

I propose we add a {{fl.wildcardDV=true}} option to turn on this behavior in 
Solr 5x but enable it by default in 6. We can optionally later add a field type 
option where you can use docValues but not have the field returned in your 
result set. 


Ishan I can tackle those.

Regarding my earlier update about modifying {{Field}}, its doesn't seem as 
trivial as I originally thought as {{createField}} doesn't set 
{{DocValuesType}} there is a separate field that gets created for doc values 
after {{createField}} is called for the first time. I'm not sure what the 
implications of modifying this behavior would be. I think it's ok to leave this 
limitation in for now.

> Read field from docValues for non stored fields
> -----------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: SOLR-8220
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-8220
>             Project: Solr
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Keith Laban
>         Attachments: SOLR-8220-ishan.patch, SOLR-8220-ishan.patch, 
> SOLR-8220-ishan.patch, SOLR-8220-ishan.patch, SOLR-8220.patch, 
> SOLR-8220.patch, SOLR-8220.patch, SOLR-8220.patch, SOLR-8220.patch
>
>
> Many times a value will be both stored="true" and docValues="true" which 
> requires redundant data to be stored on disk. Since reading from docValues is 
> both efficient and a common practice (facets, analytics, streaming, etc), 
> reading values from docValues when a stored version of the field does not 
> exist would be a valuable disk usage optimization.
> The only caveat with this that I can see would be for multiValued fields as 
> they would always be returned sorted in the docValues approach. I believe 
> this is a fair compromise.
> I've done a rough implementation for this as a field transform, but I think 
> it should live closer to where stored fields are loaded in the 
> SolrIndexSearcher.
> Two open questions/observations:
> 1) There doesn't seem to be a standard way to read values for docValues, 
> facets, analytics, streaming, etc, all seem to be doing their own ways, 
> perhaps some of this logic should be centralized.
> 2) What will the API behavior be? (Below is my proposed implementation)
> Parameters for fl:
> - fl="docValueField"
>   -- return field from docValue if the field is not stored and in docValues, 
> if the field is stored return it from stored fields
> - fl="*"
>   -- return only stored fields
> - fl="+"
>    -- return stored fields and docValue fields
> 2a - would be easiest implementation and might be sufficient for a first 
> pass. 2b - is current behavior



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