A 5.x Solr could have indices that are still in a 4.x format, right? That
would be one point where it's not "fully back compatible."

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Shai Erera <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wait, what do you mean by Lucene not supporting back-compat? Lucene 6.0
> will be able to read Lucene 5.0 indexes. The only thing that we don't
> guarantee support for is API, which isn't the case here.
>
> So what's in 6.0 that can't read a 5.x Solr. It can't be the index format
> since that's supported by Lucene. Is it the ZK format? If so, should we try
> to "version" it so that a 6.0 code can read a 5.x version? Is it something
> else / additionally?
>
> Shai
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 7:06 PM Mark Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, we are allowed wide berth to break backcompat across major versions
>> and we cannot support rolling updates for the same reason Lucene stopped
>> trying to do full back compat across major versions. Without, we can't
>> properly innovate in the code or fix past mistakes and would also burn lots
>> of cycles we don't have on crazy, "sophisticated" back compat layers.
>>
>> We don't even really support rolling updates between major versions. We
>> make a simple best effort. Until we have tests, it's going to be a shaky
>> affair. There is a JIRA open now working on some testing I believe.
>>
>> - Mark
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:29 AM Shai Erera <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I read in few emails/issue comments that rolling upgrades from 5.x to
>>> 6.0 isn't supported. Is it really the case? Does it mean that anyone who
>>> has a 5.x Solr cluster *must* incur down time when upgrading to 6.0?
>>>
>>> If this is really the case, can someone list the known issues/reasons
>>> for that?Can we do something about it, e.g. in a subsequent 5.6 release
>>> that will allow rolling upgrades (like the 5.4.1 fix that allowed rolling
>>> upgrades from pre-5.4 to 5.4)?
>>>
>>> I feel it's odd (and may not be taken well) if we force users to take
>>> down their entire cluster if they want to upgrade to 6.0. Definitely feels
>>> like it will also slow down 6.0 adoption.
>>>
>>> And if nothing can be done, what's the recommended way then to upgrade
>>> to 6.0?
>>>
>>> Shai
>>>
>> --
>> - Mark
>> about.me/markrmiller
>>
>

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