Comments from the peanut gallery...

I'd state it much more harshly. There's no such thing as a "typical
user query" ;) We spend a lot of time trying to score documents to
return the "best" answer.... which is totally irrelevant to some of
the applications we see where the only concern is aggregations. Which
is totally irrelevant for apps (think, say patents or drug research or
most other things legal and many things academic) where the overriding
concern is seeing _all_ the documents pertaining to the search. Which
is totally irrelevant to e-commerce where the concern is how much
margin say an aggregator makes which is totally irrelevant to <insert
case N+1 here>

I truly wish there was a better answer here, but until there is I'd
just use Mike's stuff if you can, at least that way you're comparing a
long-running benchmark with the new code.

FWIW,
Erick

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Michael McCandless
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Konstantin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks
>> I'm aware of current implementation of merging in Lucene on a high level.
>> Yes Rhinodog uses B-tree for storing everything, it is a bottleneck on
>> writes, but it's almost as fast on reads as direct access to location on
>> disk.
>
> Slower writes for faster reads is the right tradeoff for a search engine, in
> general, IMO.
>>
>> (With cold cache, while using SSD reads take less time than decoding
>> blocks) But may be there is a way to decouple merging/storing + codes from
>> everything else? Just quickly  looking over the sources it actually seems
>> like a hard task to me. With yet unclear benefits. I'll compare this
>> compaction strategies.
>
> You mean like Lucene's Codec abstractions?
>>
>> Also, I have a question  about search performance - I'm most likely
>> testing  it in a wrong way - do you test performance on real users queries?
>> What kinds of queries are more likely? Those where query word's have similar
>> frequencies, or those where word's frequencies differ by orders of
>> magnitude?
>
> It's not possible to answer this :(
>
> Real user queries and real documents those users were querying is by far
> best, but they are not easy to come by.
>
> In the nightly wikipedia benchmark, e.g.
> http://home.apache.org/~mikemccand/lucenebench/Phrase.html , I use
> synthetically generated queries derived from an index to try to mix up the
> relative frequencies of the terms.
>
> Mike McCandless
>
> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>

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