I haven't tried for 95th percentile, but generally with those collection
start stats you would monitor based on calculated deltas.  You can figure
out the average response time for any given window of time not smaller than
your snapshot polling interval.  I don't see why 95th percentile would be
any different.

Ryan

On Monday, November 14, 2016, Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org>
wrote:

> Because the current stats are not usable. They really should be removed
> from the code.
>
> They calculate percentiles since the last collection load. We need to know
> 95th percentile
> during the peak hour last night, not the 95th for the last month.
>
> Right now, we run eleven collections in our Solr 4 cluster. In each
> collection, we have
> several different handlers. Usually, one for autosuggest (instant
> results), one for the SRP,
> and one for mobile, though we also have SEO requests and so on. We can
> track performance
> for each of these.
>
> wunder
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>
>
> On Nov 14, 2016, at 3:54 PM, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','erickerick...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> Point taken, and thanks for the link. The stats I'm referring to in
> this thread are available now, and would (I think) be a quick win. I
> don't have a huge amount of investment in it though, more "why didn't
> we think of this before?" followed by "maybe there's a very good
> reason not to bother". This may be it since we now standardize on
> Jetty. My question of course is whether this would be supported moving
> forward to netty or whatever...
>
> Best,
> Erick
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wun...@wunderwood.org');>> wrote:
>
> I’m not fond of polling for performance stats. I’d rather have the app
> report them.
>
> We could integrate existing Jetty monitoring:
>
> http://metrics.dropwizard.io/3.1.0/manual/jetty/
>
> From our experience with a similar approach, we might need some
> Solr-specific metric
> conflation. SolrJ sends a request to /solr/collection/handler as
> /solr/collection/select?qt=/handler.
> In our code, we fix that request to the intended path. We’ve been running a
> Tomcat metrics search
> filter for three years.
>
> Also, see:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-8785
>
> wunder
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>
>
> On Nov 14, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','erickerick...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> What do people think about exposing a Collections API call (name TBD,
> but the sense is PERFORMANCESTATS) that would simply issue the
> admin/mbeans call to each replica of a collection and report them
> back. This would give operations monitors the ability to see, say,
> anomalous replicas that had poor average response times for the last 5
> minutes and the like.
>
> Seems like an easy enhancement that would make ops people's lives easier.
>
> I'll raise a JIRA if there's interest, but sure won't make progress on
> it until I clear my plate of some other JIRAs that I've let linger for
> far too long.
>
> Erick
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