> On 18 Apr 2017, at 19:15, Walter Underwood <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Pretty sure the back-compat did not work, because New Relic cannot find the 
> MBeans in our 6.5.0 cluster.
> 

I don’t use New Relic and nobody reported this until now, which is a pity… 
Could you please be more specific about what MBeans can’t be found? Does this 
affect all caches or just some of them? 

> 
>> On Apr 11, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Walter Underwood <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> We are running 6.5.0 in prod and New Relic is not showing cache stats. I 
>> think this means it cannot find the MBeans.
>> 
>> I gleaned that from the discussion here:
>> 
>> https://discuss.newrelic.com/t/solr-data-not-appearing-in-apm-solr-tabs-caches-updates/37507/4
>>  
>> <https://discuss.newrelic.com/t/solr-data-not-appearing-in-apm-solr-tabs-caches-updates/37507/4>
>> https://docs.newrelic.com/docs/agents/java-agent/troubleshooting/solr-data-not-appearing-apm-solr-tab-java
>>  
>> <https://docs.newrelic.com/docs/agents/java-agent/troubleshooting/solr-data-not-appearing-apm-solr-tab-java>
>> 
>> wunder
>> Walter Underwood
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ <http://observer.wunderwood.org/>  (my blog)
>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Andrzej Białecki 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Mar 2017, at 16:45, Otis Gospodnetić <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> While I love all the new metrics in Solr, I think metrics should be 
>>>> treated like code/features in terms of how backwards 
>>>> compatibility/deprecation is handled. Otherwise, on upgrade, people's 
>>>> monitoring breaks.... and monitoring is kind of important... 
>>>> Note: Looks like recent Solr metrics changes broke/changed 
>>>> previously-existing MBeans... 
>>>> Don't have the details about what was changed and how exactly, but I see 
>>>> people using Sematext SPM for monitoring Solr are reporting this with Solr 
>>>> 6.4.1.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Otis,
>>> 
>>> Yes, we’ll be more careful, but we need proper feedback too. My 
>>> understanding was that SOLR-10035 addressed this by adding back-combat 
>>> registration under old names. Are you saying there are still some issues in 
>>> 6.4.1? Can you please be more specific? 6.4.2 is almost out, but if it’s 
>>> something serious then we should fix it.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Otis
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>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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