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Varun Thacker commented on SOLR-11427:
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Hi Erick,

Do you know the original motivation of "onlyIdDown"  ? 

While deleting a replica we need to specify collection,shard and replica . So 
shouldn't the user know that he is deleting an active replica?

The scenario that you described totally happens . So to address that if we 
didn't have "onlyIfDown" in the first place then the command would try to 
delete the index , which would fail ( core is not present ) but atleast we 
would cleanup the state - which is what the user wants at this point ?

> DELETEREPLICA with onlyIfDown specified should succeed if the host node is 
> not present in the live_nodes Znode
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>
>                 Key: SOLR-11427
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-11427
>             Project: Solr
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: Public(Default Security Level. Issues are Public) 
>            Reporter: Erick Erickson
>            Assignee: Erick Erickson
>
> The title says it pretty much, so opening up for discussion:
> Here's the problem. Let's say a node is killed via {{kill -9}}. The 
> state.json file still says it's "active", but the node is gone from 
> live_nodes. If the node in question never comes back, the replica's state 
> doesn't necessarily get switched to "down", so specifying onlyIfDown fails 
> with "node is active" message. This is all documented more thoroughly in 
> SOLR-9361.
> The question is whether it's sufficient and/or safe to succeed in deleting 
> the replica from state.json if the state is "active" _and_ the node is NOT 
> present in live_nodes.
> I'm assigning to myself, but others should feel free to take it.



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