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Timothy M. Rodriguez commented on LUCENE-8000:
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[~rcmuir] thanks for the further explanation.  That helped clarify. It does 
seem the effect would be minor at best.  It'd be an interesting experiment at 
some point, though.  If I ever get to trying it, I'll post back.

[~gol...@detego-software.de] As an additional point, advanced use cases often 
utilize token "stacking" for additional uses as well and these would have 
further distortions on length.  For example, some folks use analysis chains 
that stack variants of urls, currencies, etc.

> Document Length Normalization in BM25Similarity correct?
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LUCENE-8000
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8000
>             Project: Lucene - Core
>          Issue Type: Bug
>            Reporter: Christoph Goller
>            Priority: Minor
>
> Length of individual documents only counts the number of positions of a 
> document since discountOverlaps defaults to true.
> {code}
>  @Override
>   public final long computeNorm(FieldInvertState state) {
>     final int numTerms = discountOverlaps ? state.getLength() - 
> state.getNumOverlap() : state.getLength();
>     int indexCreatedVersionMajor = state.getIndexCreatedVersionMajor();
>     if (indexCreatedVersionMajor >= 7) {
>       return SmallFloat.intToByte4(numTerms);
>     } else {
>       return SmallFloat.floatToByte315((float) (1 / Math.sqrt(numTerms)));
>     }
>   }}
> {code}
> Measureing document length this way seems perfectly ok for me. What bothers 
> me is that
> average document length is based on sumTotalTermFreq for a field. As far as I 
> understand that sums up totalTermFreqs for all terms of a field, therefore 
> counting positions of terms including those that overlap.
> {code}
>  protected float avgFieldLength(CollectionStatistics collectionStats) {
>     final long sumTotalTermFreq = collectionStats.sumTotalTermFreq();
>     if (sumTotalTermFreq <= 0) {
>       return 1f;       // field does not exist, or stat is unsupported
>     } else {
>       final long docCount = collectionStats.docCount() == -1 ? 
> collectionStats.maxDoc() : collectionStats.docCount();
>       return (float) (sumTotalTermFreq / (double) docCount);
>     }
>   }
> }
> {code}
> Are we comparing apples and oranges in the final scoring?
> I haven't run any benchmarks and I am not sure whether this has a serious 
> effect. It just means that documents that have synonyms or in my use case 
> different normal forms of tokens on the same position are shorter and 
> therefore get higher scores  than they should and that we do not use the 
> whole spectrum of relative document lenght of BM25.
> I think for BM25  discountOverlaps  should default to false. 



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