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Erick Erickson updated LUCENE-8004:
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    Environment:     (was: Marking as blocker since I think there are some 
observations here that should be discussed and resolved before releasing 7.4. 
Related to LUCENE-7976.

1> By default it uses TMP and merges down to one segment. It's ironic that we 
say "don't optimize", then provide a tool that does exactly that.

2> if we are respecting max segment size (the new default), TMP will not 
attempt to merge segments that are >= the max segment size _and_ have no 
deleted docs.

3> <1> and <2> mean that the bit at the end of 
{{UpgradeIndexMergePolicy.findForcedMerges}} where it collects all the old 
segments not returned by {{in.findForcedMerges}} into one segment has the 
potential to create a very large segments, which is trappy.

Straw-man proposal:

I really dislike constructs like

{{ if (instanceof TieredMergePolicy) { do one thing} else { do something else} 
}}

Seems like that knowledge should be built into the classes themselves. WDYT 
about a new method or two in MergePolicy? They'd be no-ops for everything 
except TMP at this point. We need a couple of things:

1> hard-coding {{w.forceMerge(1);}} in IndexUpgrader is evil so I'm thinking of 
something like 
{{w.forceMerge(iwc.getMergePolicy().getDefaultForceMergeSegmentCount());}} 
instead. It would return 1 by default. Return default in MergePolicy and 
override only in TMP? Make it abstract and override everywhere?

2a> We need a way to tell TMP.findForcedMerges to return segments even if 
they're large and have no deletes in this case. Another (expert) method on 
MergePolicy set/getUsingForUpgrade? I don't particularly like that at all

2b.1> change UpgradeIndexMergePolicy.findForcedMerges to singleton-merge all 
leftover segments rather than merge them all into a single segment. I'd argue 
that this is "more correct"; Anything findForcedMerges leaves un-merged was 
determined by the merge policy NOT to be "cheap" so we should respect that.

2.b.2> change UpgradeIndexMergePolicy to "somehow" respect max segment size 
when it gathers the segments into at the end of findForcedMerges(). This 
pollutes MergePolicy some more.

2.b.3> Add a new method to MergePolicy {{findRewriteAllSegments}} or something. 
It'd look just like {{findForcedMerges}} except it would "understand" that 
every segment would need to be rewritten, even large ones with no deleted 
documents. This would make <1> unnecessary. For everything except TMP it would 
be a passthrough to {{findForcedMerges}} at this point.

I don't much like changing MergePolicy, it's nice and clean and adding methods 
to get specifics from each subclass pollutes it a bit. So <2.b.2> at least 
doesn't require that the caller understand anything about the guts of the class.

Also keep in mind that distributed systems have a hard time using the 
IndexUpgrader on every node in the system, so we need to have something that is 
easy to invoke in that environment, see the discussion at LUCENE-8264.

I'm totally open to any better ideas, haven't started work on this yet.)

> IndexUpgraderTool should rewrite segments rather than forceMerge
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>
>                 Key: LUCENE-8004
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8004
>             Project: Lucene - Core
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Erick Erickson
>            Assignee: Erick Erickson
>            Priority: Blocker
>
> Spinoff from LUCENE-7976. We help users get themselves into a corner by using 
> forceMerge on an index to rewrite all segments in the current Lucene format. 
> We should rewrite each individual segment instead. This would also help with 
> upgrading X-2->X-1, then X-1->X.
> Of course the preferred method is to re-index from scratch.



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