Hi Robert,

I agree we need to make it more usable before 8.0. I would also like to
improve ReqOptSumScorer (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8204)
to leverage impacts so that queries that incorporate queries on feature
fields (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8197) in an optional
clause are also fast.

Le jeu. 21 juin 2018 à 03:06, Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> How can the end user actually use the biggest new feature: impacts and
> BMW? As far as I can tell, the issue to actually implement the
> necessary API changes (IndexSearcher/TopDocs/etc) is still open and
> unresolved, although there are some interesting ideas on it. This
> seems like a really big missing piece, without a proper API, the stuff
> is not really usable. I also can't imagine a situation where the API
> could be introduced in a followup minor release because it would be
> too invasive.
>
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I would like to start discussing releasing Lucene/Solr 8.0. Lucene 8
> already
> > has some good changes around scoring, notably cleanups to
> > similarities[1][2][3], indexing of impacts[4], and an implementation of
> > Block-Max WAND[5] which, once combined, allow to run queries faster when
> > total hit counts are not requested.
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8116
> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8020
> > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8007
> > [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-4198
> > [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8135
> >
> > In terms of bug fixes, there is also a bad relevancy bug[6] which is
> only in
> > 8.0 because it required a breaking change[7] to be implemented.
> >
> > [6] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8031
> > [7] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8134
> >
> > As usual, doing a new major release will also help age out old codecs,
> which
> > in-turn make maintenance easier: 8.0 will no longer need to care about
> the
> > fact that some codecs were initially implemented with a random-access API
> > for doc values, that pre-7.0 indices encoded norms differently, or that
> > pre-6.2 indices could not record an index sort.
> >
> > I also expect that we will come up with ideas of things to do for 8.0 as
> we
> > feel that the next major is getting closer. In terms of planning, I was
> > thinking that we could target something like october 2018, which would be
> > 12-13 months after 7.0 and 3-4 months from now.
> >
> > From a Solr perspective, the main change I'm aware of that would be worth
> > releasing a new major is the Star Burst effort. Is it something we want
> to
> > get in for 8.0?
> >
> > Adrien
>
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