I'd like to revive this thread now that these new optimizations for
collection of top docs are more usable and enabled by default in
IndexSearcher (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8060). Any
feedback about starting to work towards releasing 8.0 and targeting October
2018?

Le jeu. 21 juin 2018 à 09:31, Adrien Grand <[email protected]> a écrit :

> Hi Robert,
>
> I agree we need to make it more usable before 8.0. I would also like to
> improve ReqOptSumScorer (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8204)
> to leverage impacts so that queries that incorporate queries on feature
> fields (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8197) in an optional
> clause are also fast.
>
> Le jeu. 21 juin 2018 à 03:06, Robert Muir <[email protected]> a écrit :
>
>> How can the end user actually use the biggest new feature: impacts and
>> BMW? As far as I can tell, the issue to actually implement the
>> necessary API changes (IndexSearcher/TopDocs/etc) is still open and
>> unresolved, although there are some interesting ideas on it. This
>> seems like a really big missing piece, without a proper API, the stuff
>> is not really usable. I also can't imagine a situation where the API
>> could be introduced in a followup minor release because it would be
>> too invasive.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Adrien Grand <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I would like to start discussing releasing Lucene/Solr 8.0. Lucene 8
>> already
>> > has some good changes around scoring, notably cleanups to
>> > similarities[1][2][3], indexing of impacts[4], and an implementation of
>> > Block-Max WAND[5] which, once combined, allow to run queries faster when
>> > total hit counts are not requested.
>> >
>> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8116
>> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8020
>> > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8007
>> > [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-4198
>> > [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8135
>> >
>> > In terms of bug fixes, there is also a bad relevancy bug[6] which is
>> only in
>> > 8.0 because it required a breaking change[7] to be implemented.
>> >
>> > [6] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8031
>> > [7] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8134
>> >
>> > As usual, doing a new major release will also help age out old codecs,
>> which
>> > in-turn make maintenance easier: 8.0 will no longer need to care about
>> the
>> > fact that some codecs were initially implemented with a random-access
>> API
>> > for doc values, that pre-7.0 indices encoded norms differently, or that
>> > pre-6.2 indices could not record an index sort.
>> >
>> > I also expect that we will come up with ideas of things to do for 8.0
>> as we
>> > feel that the next major is getting closer. In terms of planning, I was
>> > thinking that we could target something like october 2018, which would
>> be
>> > 12-13 months after 7.0 and 3-4 months from now.
>> >
>> > From a Solr perspective, the main change I'm aware of that would be
>> worth
>> > releasing a new major is the Star Burst effort. Is it something we want
>> to
>> > get in for 8.0?
>> >
>> > Adrien
>>
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