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Robert Muir commented on SOLR-2588:
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you lost me there ... they can use the exact same configs – that's kind of the 
point: testing the exact example configs as we ship them (with <lib/> 
declarations that point at dirs which may or may not contain jars depending on 
what contribs are built; and request handler / response writer declarations 
configured that use lazyloading to dynamic load things as needed.
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Ok: what I'm suggesting here is that core/contrib modules would still test what 
they do, only I think with "minimal" configs? This way its easier to debug, 
e.g. conceptually lower-level tests. But these tests still need to be 
realistic, e.g. include the <lib/> delcarations you refer to?

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i mean – yes we could have tests that copy the example configs and modify them 
and test that those modifications still work, but that's not really the point. 
the point is "core features A,B,C should work with these example configs as is; 
and contrib feature X should also work with the same example configs 
(unmodified) as long as contrib-X is build and in dir-X; and contrib feature Y 
should also work with the same example configs (unmodified) as long as 
contrib-Y is build and in dir-Y; etc..."
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Right: i see, so this 'integration' testing is a separate challenge from what I 
mentioned above. In this case we want to test the example with different 
configurations... but if we separate out these 'example' tests into something 
thats more suitable for integration testing perhaps we can setup just an 
environment like this? Maybe it would mimic the core/contrib structure in svn 
we have for the unit tests even... the only difference is the classpaths etc 
will be different?



> Make Velocity an optional dependency in SolrCore
> ------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: SOLR-2588
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-2588
>             Project: Solr
>          Issue Type: Wish
>    Affects Versions: 3.2
>            Reporter: Gunnar Wagenknecht
>            Assignee: Erik Hatcher
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 3.4, 4.0
>
>         Attachments: SOLR-2588.patch, SOLR-2588.patch, SOLR-2588.patch, 
> SOLR-2588.patch, SOLR-2588.patch, 
> SOLR-2588_Don_t_fail_if_velocity_libs_not_present_.patch
>
>
> In 1.4. it was fine to run Solr without Velocity on the classpath. However, 
> in 3.2. SolrCore won't load because of a hard reference to the Velocity 
> response writer in a static initializer.
> {noformat}
> ... ERROR org.apache.solr.core.CoreContainer - 
> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/velocity/context/Context
>       at org.apache.solr.core.SolrCore.<clinit>(SolrCore.java:1447)
>       at org.apache.solr.core.CoreContainer.create(CoreContainer.java:463)
>       at org.apache.solr.core.CoreContainer.load(CoreContainer.java:316)
>       at org.apache.solr.core.CoreContainer.load(CoreContainer.java:207)
> {noformat}

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