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Shawn Heisey commented on SOLR-13446: ------------------------------------- Thanks, for your opinion, [~gerlowskija]! I'm a little torn on changing the default also. But if it's coded well, I think letting Java set the heap size would be a good option. And anytime Java does choose the heap size, we need a log entry informing the user that it wasn't explicitly set -- because I would not want to have somebody go into production that way without really knowing that's what they're doing. Even if we stick with a hardcoded default, I absolutely want to have something in the log as discussed, with a configurable threshold, and we'll need to decide where to set that threshold default. As mentioned, I think 2GB is a good starting point. And we probably ought to log something short, one line, at INFO if they're above the threshold. Here's more detail to the nuts and bolts I was thinking about: Write a tiny java program that can be executed by the start script, which writes a shell (or cmd) include file in a temp directory with data that the start script can load before starting Solr. I'm thinking that we call this little program solr-agent, and it can be a precursor to the ideas in SOLR-6733 and SOLR-6734. I need to do some experiments to determine whether or not Java and our start scripts can detect when there is not enough actual memory to satisfy the heap allocation. > Improve default heap size and related handling > ---------------------------------------------- > > Key: SOLR-13446 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-13446 > Project: Solr > Issue Type: Improvement > Security Level: Public(Default Security Level. Issues are Public) > Components: scripts and tools > Affects Versions: 8.0 > Reporter: Shawn Heisey > Priority: Minor > > Solr's scripts have a default max heap setting of 512MB. I think it's fair > to say that for a production install, this is ridiculously small. Nearly > everyone who runs a Solr server will need to increase this value. > I think it would be useful to issue a warning in the log when the heap size > is below a certain value. Text like "Detected max heap size is XXXX. It > might be necessary to increase the heap size for proper operation. See > https://lucene.apache.org/solr/path/to/ref/guide/location for details." > For people who are running very small servers, there should be a config > option to turn off that logging when somebody knows that the default heap > size is perfectly fine for their setup. > At the same time, we also need to improve the default heap size. I'm going > to ask everyone to bikeshed about what the new default should be. Initial > thought is a 2GB default, to be made smaller automatically if detected system > memory is low. If the admin has explicitly set the heap size, then none of > this will take place. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org