And yes, if it's not clear, I've lost 80-90% of these same work before.
Total idiot.

- Mark

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:56 PM Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The branch is there, certainly it can go in without me.
>
> It does need the settings.xml fix. When I think about timing, my main
> concern is my availability - I'll be gone nov 14 to the end of the month
> and then holidays are busy. If others want to take on the responsibility
> though, I would not stop it. Trying to get gradle in while keeping my other
> work from going stale was looking like a tall order by the 14th.
>
> I'm not sure what my plans are at the moment. I'm a totally idiot and just
> lost 10 days of 16-20 hours per day of work, including the settings.xml
> fix. Luckily at least that is straightforward enough to do again.
>
> As it is, I have little to no desire to do much now. I'll try and make
> that settings fix soon and then the build is not ready (dist needs work,
> dependencies need vetting, some other make sure everything is 100% stuff)
> but it can probably go in and get what it needs as we go.
>
> - Mark
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 7:49 AM Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Going out on a limb here, as in “this may be a whacky idea but let’s toss
>> it around anyway”.
>>
>> - Check in the test fixes and Gradle build in the current state to
>> master/9.0 as soon as possible. Essentially let it break however it will,
>> even if that means we shut off Jenkins for a while. Or only test Lucene.
>> Or…..
>>
>> - Concentrate (all of us in our copious spare time) on fixing master at
>> least back to the state it is today reliability-wise.
>>
>> - Cut Solr 9.0 when it’s ready. My _guess_ would be early next year.
>>
>> - Slow/stop 8x development as necessary.
>>
>> - Yes, the 8x code line will have a short life, about 1 year. Given that
>> 9.0 was the first one we required Java 11, I pretty much expected that.
>>
>> I don’t have strong feelings about this proposal, so feel free to shoot
>> it down. That said, if we get the work Mark has done in front of everyone,
>> there’s less incentive to “just let Mark do it”. And it’s not like we’d be
>> breaking the currently released version.
>>
>> Erick
>>
>> > On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:39 AM, Martin Gainty <mgai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > agree with david
>> > as your schedule gets packed there are more than a few that are willing
>> to pickup the slack
>> > if the branch is checked-in and labelled we can tackle what needs to be
>> done
>> > From: David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 2:13 AM
>> > To: Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com>
>> > Cc: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
>> > Subject: Re: The Lucene Solr Gradle Build Game plan
>> >
>> > Thanks for your efforts Mark!
>> >
>> > Why has the migration to Gradle somehow been blocked by performance
>> improvements to Solr's tests?
>> > What are the blockers to the Gradle branch being merged to master?
>> It's an experimental shadow build, so... none?
>> >
>> > I appreciate you want everything to be great from the beginning but I
>> think it's better to try and find that subjective line where it's good
>> enough to be committed then iterated on in follow-up issues.
>> >
>> > ~ David Smiley
>> > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 1:30 AM Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hello Dawid, I'm sorry about the absence. I had a two week trip to SF
>> and that tends to steal my mind, thank god something does.
>> >
>> > Yes, I have local changes that you should likely wait for.
>> >
>> > There is a substantial issue with how I was mapping our directory names
>> to project names. That issue led to allowing some funny things and so
>> addressing it makes the build a bit to a lot less silly. Sorry Tomoko
>> Uchida :(
>> >
>> > Anyway, I had to pause Gradle when I remembered that Solr tests are
>> only slow for silly or broken reasons.
>> >
>> > So I worked on that and then I remember that about a year and a half
>> ago I had realized SolrCloud was seriously rotting in come very core and
>> key areas. At the time I spent a lot of effort on my Starburst branch
>> addressing some fundamental problems and patterns. I then had a 6 week
>> sabbatical and 3 week movie making trip. Though my own lack of care, I lost
>> all that work and mostly forgot about the whole thing.
>> >
>> > Coming back to that, after wasting a lot of effort trying to find my
>> previous work, I set off to duplicate that work and hopefully take it a bit
>> further. I really can't work on anything unless until that is on a clear
>> path to being addressed unless someone attached to my livelihood forces me.
>> >
>> > Meanwhile, I'll be gone half of November on across the world vacation
>> and December is always a mess.
>> >
>> > On the plus side, the gradle build has gotten some great testing, but
>> I'm little fuzzy on when I'm ready. I will certainly be separating out
>> these efforts. So I'll be extracting the gradle changes to the gradle
>> branch and keeping my new state as a separate branch.
>> >
>> > - Mark
>>
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