Single file update capability is a security nightmare. Even if it can be
done, it should be supported only once authc/authz have been enabled.

On Thu, 24 Sep, 2020, 10:16 pm Tomás Fernández Löbbe, <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I won't step in the way of a single file update. I haven't needed it so
> far though. I usually have the configsets in a Git repo (all the configset
> together) and I have a simple bash script that essentialy what's described
> in the docs[1]: Generate the zip on the fly and upload (optionally set the
> auth too). This can become a problem with big zips, but then again,
> ZooKeeper limits the size of the configs, so far it hasn't been an issue
> for me.
>
>
> [1]
> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_6/configsets-api.html#configsets-upload
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 7:13 AM Eric Pugh <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> It would be great if we had a simple API for updating a file in a
>> configset that didn’t assume you were just uploading a zip file.
>>
>> As an example use case, if you use the Querqy library, you need to deploy
>> a “rules.txt” file, which in olden days just went on the filesystem and you
>> would click reload on a core.   In the SolrCloud world, we do this awkward
>> “Let me stick the file in Zookeeper directly, avoiding Solr, and then do a
>> collection RELOAD” to push out the file everywhere. [1]  It works!  But
>> it’s just awkward.
>>
>> It’s great to know that I’ll be able to change out this awkward process
>> using these magic parameters to configSet.  Even nicer would be to just
>> wrap the overwrite=true&cleanup=false and the Zip requirement into
>> something that sets those.
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> https://github.com/querqy/chorus/blob/master/smui/conf/smui2solrcloud.sh#L37
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2020, at 11:57 PM, Tomás Fernández Löbbe <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hmmm; seems the configSet API doesn't have an API to update a single
>> file!  I wonder if uploading a configSet to the same name effectively
>> overwrites newly updated files but does not delete the existing files?
>> I've been working on this recently. As of 8.7, the UPLOAD command
>> supports overwriting (before, an UPLOAD on an existing configset name would
>> fail with BAD_REQUEST) and you can choose to cleanup or not the extra files
>> with the "cleanup" parameter.
>> You could upload a single file if you say overwrite=true&cleanup=false,
>> but it would still need to be in a zip file (and needs to be located in the
>> right path of the zip, for example, a synonyms file may be in
>> lang/synonyms_foo.txt or something)
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 8:10 PM David Smiley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to deprecate managed resources in lieu of easier to maintain (and
>>> more flexible) file based GET/PUT into the configset.
>>>
>>> > I don't know if 9 is too soon from a deprecation stand point
>>>
>>> IMO it's never too soon as long as there is a deprecated release.  Users
>>> take their time upgrading to major versions.
>>>
>>> > How much harder are the use-cases currently covered by managed
>>> resources, if that module was removed?
>>>
>>> I believe in practice, users synchronize one-way from their DB to Solr
>>> if they have dynamic resources like this.  This is true where I work.
>>> Otherwise, they would probably be using Solr as the source of truth, which
>>> doesn't seem architecturally-sound for most apps IMO.  Those users
>>> (hopefully few) would have to spend some time re-engineering the approach.
>>> Given one-way sync, the transition here is pretty easy:  serialize the
>>> client-managed data to the right Solr format (stopwords vs synonyms vs ...)
>>> and then a file upload to Solr/ZK and then telling Solr which collections
>>> to "reload".
>>>
>>> Hmmm; seems the configSet API doesn't have an API to update a single
>>> file!  I wonder if uploading a configSet to the same name effectively
>>> overwrites newly updated files but does not delete the existing files?
>>>
>>> ~ David Smiley
>>> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:28 AM Timothy Potter <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree we should deprecate the managed resources feature, it was the
>>>> first thing I was asked to build by LW nearly 7 years ago, before I was a
>>>> committer. Restlet was already in place and I built on top of that, not
>>>> sure who introduced it originally (nor do I care). Clearly from the vantage
>>>> point of looking back, JAX-RS and Jersey won the day with REST in Java but
>>>> that simply wasn't the case back then. What's important is how we move
>>>> forward vs. bestowing judgement backed by wisdom of hindsight on decisions
>>>> made many years ago.
>>>>
>>>> In the short term, does Apache have an Artifactory (or similar) where
>>>> we can host the Restlet dependencies for Github to pull them from? If not,
>>>> then we can port the code that's using Restlet over to using JAX-RS /
>>>> Jersey. Personally I'd prefer we remove Managed Resources support from 9
>>>> instead of porting the Restlet code but I don't know if 9 is too soon from
>>>> a deprecation stand point?
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 11:33 PM Noble Paul <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We should deprecate that feature and remove restlet dependency
>>>>> altogether
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 10:20 PM Joel Bernstein <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Restlet again!!!!!!!
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Joel Bernstein
>>>>> > http://joelsolr.blogspot.com/
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:18 AM Eric Pugh <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Do we have a community blessed alternative to restlet already?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sep 20, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Noble Paul <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Haha.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> In fact schema APIs don't use restlet. Only the managed resources
>>>>> use it
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 3:35 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> If I were talend, I'd immediately start publishing to maven
>>>>> central. If I were the developer who built the schema APIs, I would never
>>>>> have used restlet to begin with.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Sat, 19 Sep, 2020, 1:13 am Uwe Schindler, <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> I was thinking the same. Because GitHub does not cache the
>>>>> downloaded artifacts like our jenkins servers.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> It seems to run it in a new VM or container every time, so it
>>>>> downloads all artifacts. If I were Talend, I'd also block this.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Uwe
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Am September 18, 2020 7:32:47 PM UTC schrieb Dawid Weiss <
>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I don't think it's http/https - I believe restlet repository
>>>>> simply
>>>>> >>>>> bans github servers because of excessive traffic? These URLs
>>>>> work for
>>>>> >>>>> me locally...
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Dawid
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 6:35 PM Christine Poerschke (BLOOMBERG/
>>>>> >>>>> LONDON) <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>  This sounds vaguely familiar. "http works, https does not
>>>>> work" and https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-13756 possibly
>>>>> related?
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>  From: [email protected] At: 09/18/20 10:01:29
>>>>> >>>>>>  To: [email protected]
>>>>> >>>>>>  Subject: Re: restlet dependencies
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>  I don't think it is, sadly.
>>>>> >>>>>>  https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/restlet
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>  The link you provided (mvnrepository) aggregates from several
>>>>> maven
>>>>> >>>>>>  repositories.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>  D.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>  On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:46 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya
>>>>> >>>>>>  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>  Sorry, afk, but I heard (*hearsay*) that restlet is also on
>>>>> maven central
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> these days. Can we confirm and switch to that? Sorry, if that's
>>>>> not the case.
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>  On Fri, 18 Sep, 2020, 1:15 pm Dawid Weiss, <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>  Just FYI: can't get PR builds on github to work recently
>>>>> because of this:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Could not resolve all files for configuration
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> ':solr:core:compileClasspath'.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>  350 > Could not download org.restlet.ext.servlet-2.4.3.jar
>>>>> >>>>>>>>  (org.restlet.jee:org.restlet.ext.servlet:2.4.3)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>  351 > Could not get resource
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> '
>>>>> https://maven.restlet.com/org/restlet/jee/org.restlet.ext.servlet/2.4.3/org.res
>>>>> >>>>>> tlet.ext.servlet-2.4.3.jar'.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>  352 > Could not GET
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> '
>>>>> https://maven.restlet.com/org/restlet/jee/org.restlet.ext.servlet/2.4.3/org.res
>>>>> >>>>>> tlet.ext.servlet-2.4.3.jar'.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>  353 > Connection reset
>>>>> >>>>>>>>  354 > Could not download org.restlet-2.4.3.jar
>>>>> >>>>>>>>  (org.restlet.jee:org.restlet:2.4.3)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>  355 > Could not get resource
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> '
>>>>> https://maven.restlet.com/org/restlet/jee/org.restlet/2.4.3/org.restlet-2.4.3.j
>>>>> >>>>>> ar'.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>  356 > Could not GET
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> '
>>>>> https://maven.restlet.talend.com/org/restlet/jee/org.restlet/2.4.3/org.restlet-
>>>>> >>>>>> 2.4.3.jar'.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>  357 > Connection reset
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>  D.
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>>>>> >>
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