Thank you everyone for participating.

Seems like there are no objections to this moving forward. I'll move
forward with this donation.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 8:36 AM Houston Putman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I can answer a few of those!
>
> I assume this is a donation to Solr project, so it will be an
>> apache/solr-operator project, similar to how it is currently
>> lucene-solr?
>>
>
> Yes, the target would be apache/solr-operator. Similar to
> apache/rocketmq-operator <https://github.com/apache/rocketmq-operator>.
>
> How does this interplay with Docker that IS in-project?
>>
>
> Currently the Dockerfile that is in-project (Solr 9+), is pretty much
> identical to the one in docker-solr (Solr 8-).
> There is no real difference between the two currently, therefore both are
> supported by the Solr Operator.
> If the solr/docker image begins to diverge, we will make sure that the
> solr-operator supports it since that will be the official Solr docker image
> starting in Solr 9.
>
> Currently the Solr Operator does not have a minimum version of Solr that
> it supports, as long as the Solr image is setup the same way as the
> official image.
> We can begin to start enforcing minimum supported Solr versions if there
> are newer Solr features that we want to utilize within the operator. But
> there are no current plans to do that .
>
> - Houston
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 9:38 AM Alexandre Rafalovitch <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> What would this practically look like if it is adopted/accepted? Given
>> the Lucene and Solr separating as an additional wrinkle.
>>
>> I assume this is a donation to Solr project, so it will be an
>> apache/solr-operator project, similar to how it is currently
>> lucene-solr? Would the committers be the same or is it kind of a new
>> set? Or more like a first-party package?
>>
>> How does this interplay with Docker that IS in-project?
>>
>> I am neither plus nor minus on this, just putting the questions that I
>> feel would benefit being clarified.
>>
>> Regards,
>>    Alex.
>>
>> On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 03:32, Anshum Gupta <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > Recently, Bloomberg reached out to us to donate the Solr Operator[1]
>> codebase to the Apache Lucene project.
>> >
>> > Built on the Kube Builder framework, Solr Operator would help in
>> standardizing the way SolrCloud clusters are managed in Kubernetes. This
>> will allow the community to converge and share best practices around
>> managing SolrCloud in k8s world.
>> >
>> > The PMC has spent the last few weeks discussing the merits and concerns
>> around the grant and intends to move forward with it unless there are
>> concerns that the community has around it.
>> >
>> > Thanks to Tim, here’s a detailed document around the design of Solr
>> Operator, this should answer most questions around the technicality of the
>> project -
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uQiJcE7kW5c6iEl9zG1Ve9MTEUGY7OHnMHX8PuTqpY8/edit?usp=sharing
>> >
>> > I’d also like to summarize the PMC discussions to help reduce repeating
>> walking down the same path.
>> >
>> > Q: Why is having an operator important for the project?
>> > A: In todays’ world of cloud native technologies, Kubernetes is an
>> essential part of most modern platforms. A Kubernetes Operator allows the
>> users of Apache Solr to deploy SolrCloud clusters on k8s while allowing the
>> people who understand the system, to codify our collective knowledge about
>> how SolrCloud should be operated.
>> >
>> > Q: Do we want to maintain the Kubernetes operator as part of the Apache
>> Lucene project?
>> > A: Yes, the operator will become an essential part of Solr as K8s
>> adoption grows. Instead of pointing users at third party documentation and
>> supporting projects, it would be good to have something that is supported
>> by the Solr community. Also, as a separate repository, with a release
>> cadence that doesn’t restrict Lucene/Solr releases, the Kubernetes Operator
>> will create a lot of value for users.
>> >
>> > Q: Have we reviewed the design of the operator before accepting the
>> grant?
>> > A: The project has a lot of commits from Houston, who’s an existing
>> committer. Also, Tim (Timothy Potter) has gone through the code and has
>> PRs. His document above also provides a lot of insight into the operator
>> for the rest of us. Overall, the code seems good and the code is in
>> reasonable shape to be accepted and improved.
>> >
>> > Q: Should we allow the Operator to be incubated as its own project
>> instead? If not, why?
>> > A: This was considered, but after discussing the pros and cons around
>> having the operator come in via the incubator, it was decided otherwise.
>> >
>> > Q: This is written in a different language i.e. Go. How do we handle
>> that? Can we not find something in Java instead ?
>> > A: Go is the de-facto language for Kubernetes. We would not get the
>> same amount of tooling and  support for Kubernetes in Java as Go. As this
>> is the right language to move forward with the operator, all of us running
>> SolrCloud in K8s will be learning and working with it anyways. We will also
>> certainly get questions around it from users, and it makes sense for us to
>> lead that instead of catch up. This way we will also attract more
>> contributors who know Go and Kubernetes in the future.  Most importantly, a
>> separate repository will allow us to keep things easy to manage.
>> >
>> > Q: What about the operator release cadence?
>> > A: The operator and Lucene/Solr would have independent release cadence.
>> >
>> > We would like to give the community a week i.e. until 30th of October,
>> 2020 to discuss this so the PMC can make an informed decision.
>> >
>> > Looking forward to a healthy discussion.
>> >
>> > [1] https://github.com/bloomberg/solr-operator
>> >
>> > --
>> > Anshum Gupta
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