Hi Uwe,

No, it's not randomized - always runs with the security manager enabled.
All the options are here:

https://github.com/apache/lucene-solr/blob/master/gradle/testing/randomization.gradle#L68-L103

When the value says "random" we pick the random value at runtime (so that
it also works within IDEs). We could pick security manager at build-time
(derive from project seed). This is a no-brainer to do. As Robert said -
perhaps we should keep some things more strict for developers and just
shuffle on the CI-only. This requires passing -Ptests.*=... flags but is
simple, I think.

Dawid

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 7:45 PM Uwe Schindler <u...@thetaphi.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I don’t fully remember what the setup previously was, but at least for
> master and 8.x it does not automatically enable/disable asserts. We can of
> course do this together with the other settings like GC or compressed OOPs,
> its just a few more lines in the Groovy file.
>
>
>
> I was also thinking that we have Security Manager enabled/disabled from
> time to time. But recently, I see no randomization for this on Jenkins,
> unless it’s part of the Gradle build.
>
>
>
> Uwe
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2021 3:13 PM
> *To:* dev@lucene.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Random disabling of asserts in tests is not working
>
>
>
> I don't think it is enabled (at least in policeman jenkins). perhaps it
> didn't work correctly when the build was cutover to gradle. Take a look at
> any old build such as
> https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/view/Lucene-Solr/job/Lucene-Solr-master-Linux/29491/
> . You can see the variables it randomizes right there.
>
>
>
> You can confirm by clicking console->full log and it prints exact gradle
> command that it runs:
> https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/view/Lucene-Solr/job/Lucene-Solr-master-Linux/29491/consoleFull
>
>
>
> Let's look into it, in a couple weeks or so?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Michael McCandless <
> luc...@mikemccandless.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 8:07 AM Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I think it has a downside: having a bug in an assert is really more of a
> corner case. This is the kind of thing jenkins is for?
>
>
>
> Ahh, that is indeed a really good point.  I would want/expect asserts to
> always work correctly when running local tests ... if we randomly disabled
> them in our checkouts it can cause a false sense of security, too soon.
>
>
>
> OK, I agree, let's leave it as randomization in Jenkins!  How do we know
> that Jenkins job/s are still randomizing assertions?  Who tests the tester?
>
>
>
> Mike McCandless
>
> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>
>

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