Bumping this conversation up, based on recent communication.  I have yet to
take action but really any of us can.

~ David Smiley
Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley


On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:48 AM David Smiley <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'll proceed on this with lazy consensus.  I suspect most of us don't
> care, unsurprisingly since I doubt anyone has any fondness for the "dist"
> folder.
>
> ~ David Smiley
> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 7:31 AM Erick Erickson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Well, Solr has grown “organically” so some things just _are_, like
>> sunrises and plagues ;)
>>
>> On a serious note, AFAIC rearrange as you see fit. I wonder how much of
>> this is left over from the war days? Anything that’s lasted through all the
>> transformations Solr has is bound to need cleaning up betimes.
>>
>> How would it relate to splitting Solr off into its own TLP? On the
>> surface, I’d guess the two efforts would be orthogonal, I mention it just
>> in case rearranging the layout would make that task easier or harder...
>>
>> > On Nov 15, 2020, at 12:18 AM, David Smiley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > I've been doing a bit of dependency work in one of our contribs, and
>> observing more closely than usual exactly what we produce in the
>> distribution layout (result of gradlew assemble).  There are some tricks
>> Dawid did in gradle/solr/packaging.gradle to pull off this stunt to keep
>> things as they have been for many years.  The distribution layout is
>> awkward, I think.  We produce this "dist" folder at the top level that has
>> every JAR this project produces, *even contribs*.  But why?  I think
>> contribs should keep to themselves.  It's ridiculous that /contribs/ltr/ is
>> empty except for a README.txt... IMO it ought to have the JAR in a "lib"
>> subdirectory there mixed with its dependencies (LTR has none but others
>> sure do).  Today, each contrib's JAR is in "/dist".  And what about SolrJ?
>> I think SolrJ is important enough that it deserves its very own top-level
>> directory "solrj", and like the contribs, with a "lib" alongside it.  Maybe
>> Solrj's optional dependencies could be in a lib-optional dir next to it or
>> lib/opt/ (beneath it).  Then... we don't need "dist" at all.  It contains
>> the solr-core JAR but this is redundant.  Furthermore, the server webapp
>> could be configured to add the SolrJ libs so that we don't need to
>> redundantly put any of them in the distribution.  There might be some
>> duplicated jars overall, but not many.  Logging libs might be explicitly
>> excluded so that they are only in one spot.  (Logging in Java is a mess)
>> >
>> > WDYT?
>> >
>> > ~ David Smiley
>> > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>>
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