We could do a few things to keep everyone happy -

1) keep abbreviated hash in the Implementat-Version and use a separate
manifest entry to store a full hash.
2) use a longer version for git show (abbrev=num) so that the chance of
collisions in the future is minimized. It's still not a full hash but a
long(er) forced prefix.

D.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 12:21 AM Chris Hostetter <hossman_luc...@fucit.org>
wrote:

>
> : I was referring to doing this with languages other than java.
> :
> : I'm also assuming that exceeding this limit is going to cause indirect
> : hassles for users of lucene, e.g. breaking various security / supply
> : chain tools. We know a lot of these are total crap but people in the
> : corporate world have to suffer under them.
>
> Just to be clear -- our 'Implementation-Version:' has been exceeding the
> 72 byte "single line" limit for a LOOOOONG time -- worrying about how
> "security / supply chain" tools will handle parsing that line now seems
> kind of silly...
>
> If tools can't handle a line wrap in the 8.10 jars, then they haven't
> been able to handle the line wrap since we switched from svn to git (when
> the Implementation Version values switched from being based svn version#
> to git sha)
>
> The *ONLY* thing that's new here is where in the value the line wrap
> happens (with 8.10.0 it happens in the middle of the SHA) and that our
> smoketest tool isn't smart enough to parse the values properly.
>
> This is not even the first time we've even had a conversation about the
> smoke tester and Implementation Version line wraps: LUCENE-7023.
>
>
> : Its super-easy to use a short hash here and avoid problems.
>
>
> There is however an actual and practical downside to switching our
> implementation version to using a "short" SHA, and that's that we would
> lose the ability to garuntee that the information in the
> Implementation-Version uniquely identifies what commit a given jar was
> built from.  Multiple commits with the same short(end) hash are possible
> -- Multiple commits with identical (full) commits is not.
>
> Folks may think that using git tags is useful enough for figuring this
> out from official releases, but being able to look at the jar metadata
> from arbitrary builds off of arbitrary branches and sanity check where
> exactly they come from has been very useful to me for 10+ years.
>
>
> : On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 3:03 AM Dawid Weiss <dawid.we...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> : >
> : > Jar command doesn't have it, true. But it's fairly trivial to do, even
> : > with an inline snippet like this one?
> : >
> : > public class PrintManifest {
> : >   public static void main(String[] jars) throws IOException {
> : >     for (var jar : jars) {
> : >       var manifest = new
> JarFile(Paths.get(jar).toFile()).getManifest();
> : >       var attrs = manifest.getMainAttributes();
> : >       System.out.println(jar + ": " +
> attrs.getValue("Implementation-Version"));
> : >     }
> : >   }
> : > }
> : >
> : > I have this in my lucene-core-9.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:
> : >
> : > Implementation-Version: 9.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> de45b68c909815ce5ea7b6b9e1a2ce337
> : >  5b6334d [snapshot build, details omitted]
> : >
> : > and running:
> : >
> : > java PrintManifest.java lucene-core-9.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
> : >
> : > shows:
> : >
> : > lucene-core-9.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar: 9.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> : > de45b68c909815ce5ea7b6b9e1a2ce3375b6334d [snapshot build, details
> : > omitted]
> : >
> : > This seems easier to me than trying to remember and keep the length of
> : > that line shorter than an arbitrary limit.
> : >
> : > Dawid
> : >
> : >
> : > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 9:46 PM Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> : > >
> : > > But its irrelevant that is "valid" when virtually no tools match it.
> : > >
> : > > In other words, I'd agree with you if the "jar" command had some
> : > > ability to read these manifests and print stuff to stdout, e.g. if
> : > > there was ANY interop at all here.
> : > >
> : > > But there isn't. So IMO it makes no sense to cause confusion and
> chaos
> : > > by adding an unnecessarily long git commit hash.
> : > >
> : > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 3:26 PM Dawid Weiss <dawid.we...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> : > > >
> : > > >
> : > > > This is valid manifest line-breaking though... Can we read the
> manifest properly on the smoke tester side somehow (for example, run a Java
> process that reads and extracts the required attribute)? This way we
> wouldn't care about the implementation details of how manifest wraps the
> lines (or escapes characters).
> : > > >
> : > > > D.
> : > > >
> : > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 8:46 PM Mike Drob <md...@mdrob.com> wrote:
> : > > >>
> : > > >> The benchmark jar has the info we need… sort of. When I built it,
> it has:
> : > > >>
> : > > >> Implementation-Version: 8.10.0
> 75a5061d3715cc5d93c4cbe4f1fa62bf035eea1
> : > > >>  1 - mdrob - 2021-09-15 11:40:36
> : > > >>
> : > > >>
> : > > >> and it’s looking for Implementation-Version: 8.10.0
> 75a5061d3715cc5d93c4cbe4f1fa62bf035eea11 on one line.
> : > > >>
> : > > >> Because 8.10 is a character longer than 8.9, we happen to wrap
> the last character of the git commit sha. From the manifest spec:
> : > > >>
> : > > >> No line may be longer than 72 bytes (not characters), in its
> UTF8-encoded form.
> : > > >> If a value would make the initial line longer than this, it
> should be continued
> : > > >> on extra lines (each starting with a single SPACE).
> : > > >>
> : > > >> And we were already teetering on the edge of that limit. We'll
> run into this problem again in a few years when we try to release version
> 10.0.0, so solving it now has practical benefits down the line.
> : > > >>
> : > > >> There's a few options that I can come up with -
> : > > >> 1. Use the short-hash when we generate the jar
> : > > >> 2. Use the short-hash when we check the contents in the smoke test
> : > > >> 3. Do some line join magic in the smoke test.
> : > > >>
> : > > >> I'm leaning towards number 1 as I feel that would still be unique
> enough for our needs, but would like to hear from others as well.
> : > > >>
> : > > >> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 9:46 AM Timothy potter <
> thelabd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> : > > >>>
> : > > >>> can someone also please look into that benchmark jar issue?
> : > > >>>
> : > > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> : > > >>>
> : > > >>> On Sep 15, 2021, at 9:44 AM, Nhat Nguyen 
> <nhat.ngu...@elastic.co.invalid>
> wrote:
> : > > >>>
> : > > >>> 
> : > > >>> Thanks Mayya and Mike! I will backport it to the 8.10 branch.
> : > > >>>
> : > > >>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 10:12 AM Mike Drob <md...@mdrob.com>
> wrote:
> : > > >>>>
> : > > >>>> I think since Tim is out on vacation, it's probably not too
> late. That looks like a good fix to have, do we know how long the bug has
> been present?
> : > > >>>>
> : > > >>>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 7:56 AM Mayya Sharipova <
> mayya.sharip...@elastic.co.invalid> wrote:
> : > > >>>>>
> : > > >>>>> Hello everyone,
> : > > >>>>> We have discovered a bug and fixed a bug in Lucene sort
> optimization (LUCENE-10106) and would like to merge it to Lucene 8.10 if it
> is not too late.
> : > > >>>>> I apologize for the inconvenience, the bug was discovered just
> yesterday.
> : > > >>>>>
> : > > >>>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 9:26 PM Timothy Potter <
> thelabd...@apache.org> wrote:
> : > > >>>>>>
> : > > >>>>>> Ahem ... unfortunately there will not be an 8.10 RC this
> week. I'm
> : > > >>>>>> headed out on vacation tomorrow, back at keys on Monday, Sept
> 20
> : > > >>>>>> unless someone else wants to pick up the RM duties before
> then?
> : > > >>>>>>
> : > > >>>>>> After failing the test suite at various places and other
> weirdness
> : > > >>>>>> like .asc files not getting created, I finally got to the
> smoke test
> : > > >>>>>> part, which is now failing with:
> : > > >>>>>>
> : > > >>>>>>   File
> "/Users/tjp/.lucene-releases/8.10.0/lucene-solr/dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py",
> : > > >>>>>> line 176, in checkJARMetaData
> : > > >>>>>>     raise RuntimeError('%s is missing "%s" inside its
> : > > >>>>>> META-INF/MANIFEST.MF (wrong git revision?)' % \
> : > > >>>>>> RuntimeError: JAR file
> : > > >>>>>>
> "/Users/tjp/.lucene-releases/8.10.0/RC1/smoketest/unpack/lucene-8.10.0/benchmark/lucene-benchmark-8.10.0.jar"
> : > > >>>>>> is missing "Implementation-Version: 8.10.0
> : > > >>>>>> ecf5c747e6df418dd05a18af327c20051f0584d7" inside its
> : > > >>>>>> META-INF/MANIFEST.MF (wrong git revision?)
> : > > >>>>>>
> : > > >>>>>> FWIW, I verified that the other Lucene JAR files have this
> line in
> : > > >>>>>> them, such as core:
> : > > >>>>>>
> : > > >>>>>> Manifest-Version: 1.0
> : > > >>>>>> Ant-Version: Apache Ant 1.9.15
> : > > >>>>>> Created-By: 1.8.0_265-b01 (AppleJDK-8.0.265.1.1)
> : > > >>>>>> Extension-Name: org.apache.lucene
> : > > >>>>>> Specification-Title: Lucene Search Engine: core
> : > > >>>>>> Specification-Version: 8.10.0
> : > > >>>>>> Specification-Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation
> : > > >>>>>> Implementation-Title: org.apache.lucene
> : > > >>>>>> Implementation-Version: 8.10.0
> ecf5c747e6df418dd05a18af327c20051f0584d
> : > > >>>>>>  7 - tjp - 2021-09-14 19:08:42
> : > > >>>>>> Implementation-Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation
> : > > >>>>>> X-Compile-Source-JDK: 8
> : > > >>>>>> X-Compile-Target-JDK: 8
> : > > >>>>>> Multi-Release: true
> : > > >>>>>>
> : > > >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 1:21 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya
> : > > >>>>>> <ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> : > > >>>>>> >
> : > > >>>>>> > All the best, this is the worst step.
> : > > >>>>>> >
> : > > >>>>>> > On Tue, 14 Sep, 2021, 10:47 pm Timothy Potter, <
> thelabd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> : > > >>>>>> >>
> : > > >>>>>> >> Building RC1 now ... stay tuned.
> : > > >>>>>> >>
> : > > >>>>>> >> On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 2:30 PM Timothy Potter <
> thelabd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> : > > >>>>>> >> >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > Thanks for the update Mike!
> : > > >>>>>> >> >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > I'm backporting SOLR-15620 right now and am cooking up a
> quick PR for
> : > > >>>>>> >> > SOLR-15621, which looks like an easy win for the issue
> Cassandra
> : > > >>>>>> >> > reported on Slack earlier today.
> : > > >>>>>> >> >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > Cheers,
> : > > >>>>>> >> > Tim
> : > > >>>>>> >> >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 11:32 AM Mike Drob <
> md...@apache.org> wrote:
> : > > >>>>>> >> > >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > Hi Tim, I'm still working on SOLR-15555, the code and
> benchmarking
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > both look pretty good, but I've got a few last unit
> tests that I need
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > to chase down. Hopefully taken care of by today or
> tomorrow, I'll be
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > sure to keep you updated though.
> : > > >>>>>> >> > >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 11:39 AM Timothy Potter <
> thelabd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > I found
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15620 while testing
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > the schema designer. I haven't built the RC yet, so
> going to see if I
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > can get this in today.
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 12:36 PM Timothy Potter <
> thelabd...@apache.org> wrote:
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > > NOTICE:
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > > Branch branch_8_10 has been cut and versions
> updated to 8.11 on stable branch.
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > > Please observe the normal rules:
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > > * No new features may be committed to the branch.
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > > * Documentation patches, build patches and serious
> bug fixes may be
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >   committed to the branch. However, you should
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> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >   want to commit to Jira first to give others the
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> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >   and possibly vote against the patch. Keep in
> mind that it is our
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >   main intention to keep the branch as stable as
> possible.
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > > * All patches that are intended for the branch
> should first be committed
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >   to the unstable branch, merged into the stable
> branch, and then into
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >   the current release branch.
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > > * Normal unstable and stable branch development
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> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >   However, if you plan to commit a big change to
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> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >   while the branch feature freeze is in effect,
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> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >   addition wait a couple more days? Merges of bug
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> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >   may become more difficult.
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >
> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > > * Only Jira issues with Fix version 8.10 and
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> : > > >>>>>> >> > > > >   a release candidate build.
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