ok, life must be scary for developers on windows!

On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 10:33 AM Dawid Weiss <dawid.we...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Certain regenerate tasks do require perl and python indeed.
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> On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 2:23 PM Michael Sokolov <msoko...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> While editing this CONTRIBUTING.md I found the following statement:
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>>     Some build tasks (in particular `./gradlew check`) require Perl
>> and Python 3.
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>> Is it actually true that we require Perl?
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 8:11 AM Michael Sokolov <msoko...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > So I'm glad we have a fix for this, but it's making me realize that
>> > any new joiner that uses intellij (probably most of them?) will have
>> > this problem and have no idea what to do about it. They will just
>> > conclude - running Lucene tests in intellij sucks. If we revived that
>> > intellij target maybe that would help - but .. you would have to know
>> > to run it! So then I went to look at our project web page to see what
>> > kind of developer docs we have that a new contributor might find.
>> >
>> > The first place Google sent me was to our github page
>> > https://github.com/apache/lucene/?tab=readme-ov-file-- that one has
>> > some very brief description about how to build, but nothing about
>> > intellij. It does have a prominent link to "Developer documentation"
>> > which is here: https://github.com/apache/lucene/tree/main/dev-docs but
>> > that folder is mostly empty; it has a few somewhat esoteric bits of
>> > info, but again nothing basic about building and testing; no
>> > discussion of all the myriad gradle tasks and deep help info that
>> > exists there.
>> >
>> > Next I tried looking on apache.org, but actually it is quite hard to
>> > find any info about Lucene there - Apache just has too many projects.
>> > I did finally find this page though
>> > https://projects.apache.org/project.html?lucene-core and it links to
>> > https://lucene.apache.org/core/. From there, I see a "Developer" link,
>> > again this page has a paucity of info; basically it links you to
>> > github, jenkins, and to the wiki. The "wiki" link actually just takes
>> > you to a different github page -- and *this* one actually has some
>> > useful info on how to build -- I think it's our best "intro" page for
>> > a new developer. However all it says about IntelliJ is: "IntelliJ -
>> > IntelliJ idea can import and build gradle-based projects out of the
>> > box." true, sort of.
>> >
>> > So I think I will (1) add a note about this IJ build setting to that
>> > page, and (2) consolidate some of the other links to go here instead
>> > of routing folks through a twisty maze of web pages
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 7:45 AM Stefan Vodita <stefan.vod...@gmail.com> 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > +1, I had the same problem and it seems better now. Thank you, Dawid!
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 12:20, Michael Sokolov <msoko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Oh! TIL! so much better, thanks. And now I have the "Repeat" option
>> > >> back in the test runner
>> > >>
>> > >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 6:18 AM Dawid Weiss <dawid.we...@gmail.com> 
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Don't know what's causing this... but I never run IntelliJ builds or 
>> > >> > tests through its gradle launcher, actually. Switch it to compile and 
>> > >> > run using its own built-in method - much faster.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Dawid
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 12:10 PM Michael Sokolov <msoko...@gmail.com> 
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Hi, I wonder how many of us are using intellij to run Lucene tests, 
>> > >> >> and if you are, have you noticed it having gotten really quite slow? 
>> > >> >> It seems to take a long time doing... Something... Before the test 
>> > >> >> starts running. I have a suspicion that we are using gradle in a way 
>> > >> >> that forces it to rebuild its cache every time or something like 
>> > >> >> that. Once upon a time we had an intellij build setup target that 
>> > >> >> set things up in a more intellij friendly way, according gradle, 
>> > >> >> didn't we? Does that still exist?
>> > >>
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