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Per Steffensen commented on SOLR-3425:
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You talk about using CloudSolrServer and/or LBHttpSolrServer for access to Core 
Admin API. This a little strange because:
* A Core Admin API request should be sent to a specific Solr node in order for 
you to control where the shard is created (or removed from)
* CloudSolrServer and LBHttpSolrServer are all about sending requests that can 
end up going to a (randmon) node among several nodes
With the quick-fix code above (Tommaso Teofili 01/May/12) you will end up 
having your shard created on a random node among all live nodes - it is very 
rarely want you want.

So as long as we are talking about accessing Core Admin API you probably always 
want to use HttpSolrServer, which is aimed a sending the request to a specific 
node.

But when talking about creating an entire collection consisting of many shards, 
it is certainly meaningful to use CloudSolrServer. To create entire collections 
(without having to create each shard yourself using the Core Admin API) we now 
have the Collection API in 4.0.0. The Collection API can be used through 
CloudSolrServer, except...
* You cant create your first collection through CloudSolrServer
* You cant create a collection through a CloudSolrServer, where 
default-collection is the collection you want to create
* etc
...basically because CloudSolrServer wants an existing collection (pointed to 
by its default-collection or a collection-name provided in the actual request) 
before it can do anything.
This will be fixed with SOLR-4140, but is not in 4.0.0.

Other things not in Collection API of 4.0.0
* You cant have more than one shard per collection on a single node - fixed in 
TLT-4114
* You cant specify which Solr nodes the shards for a new collection is allowed 
to be spread across - they are just spread across all live Solr nodes - fixed 
in TLT-4120

Please state if you still believe something is missing or unclear. Or else you 
might want to state that your "problems" are solved with the 4.0.0 Collection 
API (maybe plus one or more of SOLR-4140, SOLR-4114 and SOLR-4120 which will 
hopefully be in "the next release") by closing this issue SOLR-3425
                
> CloudSolrServer can't create cores when using the zkHost based constructor
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: SOLR-3425
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3425
>             Project: Solr
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: SolrCloud
>            Reporter: Tommaso Teofili
>            Assignee: Mark Miller
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 4.1
>
>         Attachments: SOLR-3425-test.patch
>
>
> When programmatically creating cores with a running SolrCloud instance the 
> CloudSolrServer uses the slices nodes information to feed the underlying 
> LBHttpSolrServer so it fails to create cores as there aren't any slices for 
> any new collection (as it's still to be created).
> This happens when using the CloudSolrServer constructor which takes the ZK 
> host as only parameter while it can be avoided by using the constructor which 
> also takes the list of Solr URLs and the underlying LBHttpSolrServer is 
> actually used for making the core creation request.
> However it'd be good to use the ZK host live nodes information to 
> automatically issue a core creation command on one of the underlying Solr 
> hosts without having to specify the full list of URLs beforehand.
> The scenario is when one wants to create a collection with N shards so the 
> client sends N core creation requests for the same collection thus the 
> SolrCloud stuff should just take care of choosing the host where to issue the 
> core creation request and update the cluster state.

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