Unfortunately I have one blocker issue for 4.3, where does that weigh in? I can fix it tomorrow, but I'd really hate to have it go out with this in.
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Jack Krupansky <j...@basetechnology.com> wrote: > +1 for stabilization only for 4.3 at this point. It seems like last time > there was at least one last minute feature change that broke something in > 4.2 but didn’t get noticed for a few days (which is normal) but 4.2 was > already out by then. A two-week window would have prevented that situation. > > I like the idea of a more formal “two week” window from “feature [shove] > freeze” to RC. And only stabilization is permitted in that window. New > features then continue on the main dot branch. > > And also maybe a loose “I/we would like to release in a month or so” > notification, which gives feature guys two weeks to get their feature in > before the two-week stabilization window kicks in. > > I would suggest that if anybody “planning” to release a 4.4 wants it a month > after 4.3, they should notify the community as soon as 4.3 goes out. I can > see doing a patch release on a moment’s notice – for stabilization bug fixes > only, but dot feature releases should get a little more care since there are > feature changes in play and production guys expect that a dot release should > work at least as well as the previous dot release. > > -- Jack Krupansky > > From: Robert Muir > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:47 AM > To: dev@lucene.apache.org > Cc: simon.willna...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: 4.3 > > I see a few issues myself (that dont need to cause a big conflict): > 1. Simon doesn't want things to destabilize due to last minute > feature-shoving. this is a real problem and I totally see his point. > 2. Mark wants some time to do some cleanup/checks/bugfixing/whatever. I > doubt he wants to do shoving, instead I think these activities contribute to > a quality release. > > So i'd recommend just keeping the release branch as is, give a few more days > for additional bugfixes/docs/tests, but restrict the branch to that only > those changes to improve stability. > If this causes timing issues with release management, I'll help too however > I can. > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Simon Willnauer <simon.willna...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > honestly I don't think we should push in last minute changes by saying >> > "oh I will wait 2 days" We should release early and often as we do and >> > fixes >> > will make it to the next release right next month. >> >> Review and bug fixes are not last minute changes. Pretending we should not >> focus on a release is ridicules. I want to release quality software, not >> hurried crap. >> >> > Robert say I will do one in the next 2 weeks unless somebody is quicker. >> > As always folks say we release once somebody volunteers. I don't know how >> > often I had something in the pipeline that I wanted in the release and I as >> > often we had this discussion. The 4.2 release was not even announced before >> > the RC was up and I think this is how it should be. You can do another >> > release soon in about 3 week or whatever. >> >> Dude, asking for a small amount of planning on a release seems very >> reasonable. Wake up today and surprise "release" is ridiculous. Not even a >> day or two notice? >> >> If this is how it goes, I'm happy to just randomly start tossing up RC all >> the time with no discussion or notice to the list. >> >> I'll probably toss one up a few days after you do after I do my review. >> >> - Mark >> >> > >> > simon >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > How about a short heads up so that people working on 4.3 issues can >> > actually wrap up? I know I have review I want to finish before 4.3 at >> > least. >> > >> > Robert gave a warning of 2 weeks, then less than a week later you say, >> > I'm rolling now? Can't we at least have a day or two notice to wrap? >> > >> > - Mark >> > >> > On Apr 17, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Simon Willnauer <simon.willna...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Folks, >> > > >> > > I started a release branch for Lucene / Solr 4.3 >> > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/dev/branches/lucene_solr_4_3/ >> > > I will update the 4.x branch now and build the first RC >> > > >> > > simon >> > > >> > > >> > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > 4.3 is looking good already. If nobody has spun a release candidate in >> > > two weeks, I will. >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org