Yeah, this configuration style is definitely a kludge around this Maven 
shortcoming.  

About submodules, though, you can see this in lucene/codecs/pom.xml.template 
aggregation POM - this is how maven specifies submodules (rather than via 
implicit recursive directories; submodules can be physically located in sibling 
directories):

  <modules>
    <module>src/java</module>
    <module>src/test</module>
  </modules>

Probably should be a comment in each of the three pom.xml.template files for 
each module: in the aggregation POM, the src/java POM and the src/test POM.

On Sep 17, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> yes a comment like that is good. i think what confused me was maybe
> the fact the submodules are under "src".
> 
> if you look at this, you dont think there is any nested modules.
> 
> [mac:maven/lucene/codecs] rmuir% ls -la
> total 8
> drwxr-xr-x   4 rmuir  staff   136 Oct 27  2012 .
> drwxr-xr-x  22 rmuir  staff   748 Jul 13 09:48 ..
> -rw-r--r--   1 rmuir  staff  1794 Sep  9  2012 pom.xml.template
> drwxr-xr-x   4 rmuir  staff   136 Oct 27  2012 src
> 
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Steve Rowe <sar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> +1 to add this comment to the pom.xml.template files for lucene-codec (and 
>> lucene-core, solr-core and solr-solrj), but the "dark magic" isn't necessary 
>> for Ant, since it's more flexible than Maven, so I don't think any mention 
>> needs to be made of this in build.xml files.
>> 
>> Maven considers dependencies to be cyclic even if they are used in different 
>> build phases - e.g. lucene-test-framework has a compile-phase dependency on 
>> lucene-codecs, and lucene-codecs has a test-phase dependency on 
>> lucene-test-framework.
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Chris Hostetter <hossman_luc...@fucit.org> 
>> wrote:
>>> : Some background on the lucene-codec module's complex maven config
>>> : (lucene-core, solr-core, and solr-solrj all have the same setup):
>>> : <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-4365> - the two attached
>>> : images show the cyclic dependency situation involving the test-framework
>>> : modules before[1] and after[2] the maven config complexification.
>>> 
>>> perhaps we need a comment in the lucene-codec pom.xml/build.xml files...
>>> 
>>>      There is dark magic here, do not use this file as a template,
>>>       or inspiration, when adding new modules...
>>>          https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-4365
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Hoss
>> 
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