NightOwl888 commented on issue #894:
URL: https://github.com/apache/lucenenet/issues/894#issuecomment-2446038727

   Thanks for putting some thought into this. Indeed these sound like 2 good 
places to start.
   
   I looked at `ThreadAbortException` a bit. We don't catch it directly, but it 
subclasses `SystemException`. This corresponds roughly to `RuntimeException` in 
Java. There are only a few cases where we use the `.IsRuntimeException()` 
extension method in the core assembly, and in all of those cases we are 
rethrowing the exception. So this does not seem likely to be the problem.
   
   I checked with ChatGPT to get some high-level analysis about how Lucene 
4.8.0 manages transactional behavior:
   
   > Apache Lucene 4.8.0 uses a combination of write-ahead logging and 
checkpointing, implemented through its own data structures and mechanisms 
rather than traditional database methods, to maintain consistency and ensure 
durability in the event of a crash.
   >
   >Here’s how Lucene 4.8.0 specifically achieves this:
   >
   >**Segment-Based Architecture:** Lucene writes data in immutable segments, 
which helps it maintain consistency. Each time data is added, modified, or 
deleted, Lucene creates a new segment rather than modifying existing ones. This 
approach minimizes the risk of data corruption since it doesn’t overwrite 
existing data but rather appends new changes.
   >
   >**Commit Points:** Lucene uses commit points to mark stable, consistent 
snapshots of the index. During indexing, changes are stored in memory and 
periodically flushed to disk as new segments. When a commit is requested, 
Lucene creates a commit point by writing a new segments_N file, which serves as 
a reference to the current state of the index. The segments_N file acts as a 
checkpoint that points to the set of segments that make up a consistent view of 
the index.
   >
   >**Write-Ahead Log (WAL) with Transaction Log File:** For any changes made 
to the index, Lucene uses a transaction log file to record pending changes 
before they are committed. This file logs operations that are in progress, 
providing a record in case of a crash. Upon restart, Lucene can check this 
transaction log to replay any operations that were interrupted and restore the 
index to a consistent state.
   >
   >**Two-Phase Commit (Optional):** While Lucene 4.8.0 does not use a full 
distributed two-phase commit protocol, it does have an optional two-phase 
commit feature for situations where multiple processes might be writing to the 
index concurrently (e.g., when using a directory like NFS). In such cases, this 
feature can help coordinate commits across multiple nodes to prevent partial 
writes.
   >
   >**Crash Recovery:** If there’s a sudden failure, Lucene relies on the 
segments_N file to determine the last consistent commit point. Since Lucene 
only updates the segments_N file after writing all necessary data to disk, the 
system can revert to the last valid snapshot by loading the most recent 
segments_N file.
   >
   >Through these approaches, Lucene 4.8.0 achieves consistency by committing 
data in a safe manner and relying on immutable segment files and a clear commit 
structure, which protect the index from corruption even in case of power loss 
or unexpected crashes.
   
   I then went a little bit further to try to get some clues as to specifically 
what is failing. It gave us a few things we can experiment with to determine if 
they help to solve the problem.
   
   > > We ported the transaction code in Lucene.NET 4.8.0. It is behaving 
correctly on .NET Framework (that is, the TestIndexWriterOnJRECrash test is 
passing). However, on .NET Core we sometimes get a failure during a simulated 
power outage. What difference between .NET Framework and .NET Core is likely to 
be causing this?
   
   >ChatGPT said:
   >
   >If Lucene.NET 4.8.0's TestIndexWriterOnJRECrash test is failing on .NET 
Core but not on .NET Framework, this might stem from differences in file 
handling and caching behaviors between the two runtimes, especially regarding 
how they handle file system flushes and durability guarantees.
   >
   >Here are some likely causes:
   >
   >**File System Flushing and Durability Guarantees:**
   >
   >.NET Framework and .NET Core differ in how they handle file system writes, 
particularly around ensuring data is flushed to disk. In .NET Framework, file 
writes may be more aggressive in flushing data to disk when using 
FileStream.Flush(true) (with true forcing a flush to disk). However, .NET Core 
on certain platforms, particularly on Linux, might treat flushes differently, 
not always ensuring data reaches persistent storage immediately.
   Lucene relies on calling fsync (or Flush(true)) to ensure that all data is 
written to disk before committing the segments_N file. However, on .NET Core, 
especially on non-Windows platforms, there may be differences in how this flush 
is handled by the OS, potentially causing unflushed data to remain in memory 
when a crash is simulated.
   >
   > **File Locking Behavior Differences:**
   >
   >Lucene’s commit process relies on exclusive file locks to protect the 
segments_N file and other index files during updates. .NET Core and .NET 
Framework have some differences in file locking implementations and behaviors, 
especially when running on Linux. On Linux, .NET Core uses advisory locking 
rather than mandatory locking, which might not always prevent other processes 
or threads from accessing the file.
   >
   > **Platform-Specific File Caching:**
   >
   >.NET Core, especially on non-Windows platforms, may defer certain file 
operations to in-memory cache layers longer than .NET Framework does, 
potentially leading to timing issues in crash simulation tests. If the 
simulated crash occurs before the OS writes the data from cache to disk, the 
index could be left in an inconsistent state.
   >
   > **Differences in FileOptions.WriteThrough:**
   >
   >On .NET Core, FileOptions.WriteThrough can be specified for file operations 
to bypass OS caches and write directly to disk. However, this behavior is more 
consistent on Windows than on other platforms, where it might not have the same 
impact. Using FileOptions.WriteThrough could potentially improve durability on 
.NET Core by ensuring data reaches disk more reliably.
   >
   > ### Potential Fixes
   >
   > To improve consistency in this crash simulation test, try the following 
adjustments:
   >
   >**Explicit Flush and File Sync**: Ensure that FileStream.Flush(true) is 
used for every critical file operation and commit phase in Lucene.NET on .NET 
Core, as this may improve data durability.
   >
   >**Use `FileOptions.WriteThrough`**: If running on .NET Core and supported 
by the environment, open file streams with FileOptions.WriteThrough to minimize 
caching issues and enforce writes directly to disk.
   >
   >**Platform-Specific Configuration**: If these changes do not stabilize the 
test, it may be necessary to adjust Lucene.NET’s file handling configuration 
based on platform detection (e.g., applying extra flushes or locks on .NET Core 
for Linux vs. Windows).
   By accounting for these differences in file handling between .NET Framework 
and .NET Core, especially around data flushing and durability, you can improve 
the reliability of the simulated crash tests on both platforms.
   
   `FileStream.Flush(true)` was the thing that was killing performance on .NET 
8.0, which is why we put the fsync call out of band like it was in Java, so it 
isn't likely to be the cause. However, it wouldn't hurt to review when we are 
calling `Flush()` to make sure it is happening everywhere it should be.
   
   `FileOptions.WriteThrough` seems like something we should investigate. In 
fact, it might not hurt to review all of the options that we are passing to 
`FileStream` instances, since this differs so greatly from Java.
   
   Using OS-level disk monitoring might also help to narrow down the problem, 
but it does seem like it might be a shortcut to try these other suggestions 
first.
   
   Would you like to give it a shot to see whether one of these suggestions 
fixes the test?
   
   > Wow - ChatGPT makes this analysis work so much easier!


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