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r1149369 implements the previous MAHOUT-749 patch that introduces support for 
multiple reducers (specified by -Dmapred.reduce.tasks=N) for improved 
scalability beyond the default of 1. The heuristic sends the clusters produced 
by each mapper to 1 of N reducers in a round-robin fashion to intermix them 
with the results of the other mappers. In each iteration, N is reduced by one 
until a final reducer merges the results of all previous iterations.

The patch also implements a change to the representation of MeanShiftCanopies, 
introducing a new 'mass' field which tracks the number of bound points formerly 
computed as needed from the boundPoints array itself. This allows the 
accumulation of the bound points in the clusters to be omitted if the -cl 
option is not present in the CLI invocation and a massive reduction in the 
cluster sizes for situations where the clustered (classified) points are not 
being requested in the first place.

Both of these enhancements need further testing to see how they really impact 
scalability of mean shift canopy clustering. I'm working on that now.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sengupta, Sohini IN BLR SISL [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 5:03 AM
To: Jeff Eastman
Cc: Sengupta, Sohini IN BLR SISL
Subject: RE: meanshift reduce task problem

Hi Jeff,
I have around 30 input files and am specifying 18 reducers.
Transcript output: Well on the terminal I keep seeing the job's progress but 
after a few failures (failed to report status for 601 seconds. Killing!) for 
the reducer with the maximum load the whole job fails automatically and I see a 
heap size problem on the window. Is it what you wanted to know? Please clarify.
Thanks again,
Regards,
Sohini

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Eastman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:19 PM
To: Sengupta, Sohini IN BLR SISL
Subject: RE: meanshift reduce task problem

Hi Sohini,

I have not been able to test this at scale yet so there may yet be problems. 
Can you give me a little more information:
- how many input files do you have?
- how many reducers are you specifying?
- can you give me the transcript output?

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Sengupta, Sohini IN BLR SISL [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:42 AM
To: Jeff Eastman
Cc: Sengupta, Sohini IN BLR SISL
Subject: RE: meanshift reduce task problem

Hi Jeff,
I have applied the patch which you have given but I still do not see the load 
being balanced evenly on all nodes. What am I doing wrong? Any suggestions or 
clues?
Thanks a lot in advance,
Regards,
Sohini

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Eastman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:35 PM
To: Sengupta, Sohini IN BLR SISL
Subject: RE: meanshift reduce task problem

Yes, see
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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAHOUT-749?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sengupta, Sohini IN BLR SISL [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:54 PM
To: Jeff Eastman
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: meanshift reduce task problem

Hi Jeff,
Will you be providing the patch sometime soon?
Thanks and regards,
Sohini

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Eastman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: meanshift reduce task problem

I've got a simple patch in the works that modifies the driver and mapper to 
spray its output clusters across all the reducers (specified by 
-Dmapred.reduce.tasks=n). This will mix the mapper output sets and; hopefully, 
improve scalability by allowing multiple reducers to play. The patch also 
decreases the number of reducers by one in each iteration, resulting in a 
single reducer in the end game. I want to do some testing of this before I 
commit.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Eastman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 12:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: meanshift reduce task problem

If you look at the MeanShiftCanopyMapper, you will notice that the mapper 
writes all merged canopy values to a single "canopy" key. Running this with 
multiple reducers will give the same performance as running with a single 
reducer as only one reducer will get the values associated with that key. That 
is why the driver was setting the numReduceTasks(1).

I've thought a bit about how this might be improved. It is clearly a form of 
bottom-up hierarchical clustering algorithm:
- The input vector set is first converted into an equivalent set of 1-vector 
clusters by a map-only process that preserves the number of input files.
- Then the cluster set is partitioned into M mappers by hadoop. Each mapper 
combines clusters which "touch" and shifts all clusters toward their local 
means using T1 and T2 parameters like in Canopy. Presumably, each mapper's 
output set will be smaller than it's input set due to the combination of 
touching clusters.
- Here's where the scalability breaks down as a single reducer is used to merge 
the mapper output sets into a single file, after which a single mapper and 
reducer will complete the iterations.
- How can we utilize more reducers and thus keep the concurrency levels up?
-- We could imagine just using map-only processing, but this would keep the 
original input sets distinct. Each mapper set would converge internally but 
points close to each other in different mapper sets would never see each other 
and thus could never merge. Not workable; we need the input sets to be mixed in 
each iteration to avoid this.
-- If we knew we were going to have M mappers for an iteration, and we wanted 
to use R reducers, then one approach might be to randomly assign each mapper 
output cluster to one of the R reducers. This would mix up the mapper streams 
in each iteration and allow adjacent points to be combined across the mapper 
streams. If we simultaneously decreased the R value for each iteration (as the 
clusters merged) then finally there would be a single output file that had 
considered all of the input points.
- Of course, there is another scalability limitation in the current 
implementation: each cluster contains the clusterIds of all the other clusters 
which it has consumed. Thus the size of each cluster will grow monotonically 
and at some point will outgrow the heap. This could be handled by writing out 
merge records during processing and then combining them back to determine the 
point->cluster mapping. This is likely not necessary until the first limitation 
is addressed, but could be done independently.

I'm open to other ways of thinking about the scalability of mean shift. 
Comments would be appreciated.



-----Original Message-----
From: Sengupta, Sohini IN BLR SISL [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 5:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: FW: meanshift reduce task problem

Any inputs will be helpful.
Thanks

________________________________
From: Sengupta, Sohini IN BLR SISL
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Sengupta, Sohini IN BLR SISL
Subject: meanshift reduce task problem

Hi,

I have programmatically specified setNumReduceTasks(16) in 
MeanShiftCanopyDriver.java. On execution the number of reducers is being set 
correctly (i.e. 16 as visible on jobtracker screen)  but on digging deeper I 
see that one node has maximum number of bytes to process and it is nominal for 
rest of the nodes. Hence the reduce phase is very slow after 98% completion.

I am trying this on a cluster of 18 nodes. I also see that load is distributed 
evenly in map phase but not in reduce. This is happening on 0.4 and 0.5 
versions of Mahout. Has anyone faced such a problem and how to get around it?
Thanks a lot in advance,
Sohini

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