This if fine but why is Mahout integrating all of the engines, isn’t that the 
job of the engine people. Anand and Dmitriy have already said they are not 
interested in anything but the DSL so give it to any project that wants it and 
agree to support it with them. Be welcoming!

Committing this will affect every committer that plans to work with the DSL 
because it’s incomplete and changes to it will often break the build on two 
places. Also everything done outside of the Sore DSL (much of it is still 
engine dependent) will be difficult or impossible to make engine independent 
without a fair amount of work.

To me this all argues for treating the core math as an engine independent 
module that we provide to other projects. This keeps the engine dependent work 
in the engine projects.

Since this is a very special commit I propose a vote. This is one where a 
single committer should not have the power to put such a burden on all 
development.

On Jul 11, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]> wrote:

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]> wrote:

> And most importantly, as i always was saying, the main benefit to me is not
> that there's a CF algorithm in Mahout, but that i can write a custom one of
> my own with less effort than just writing directly to any given engine api.
> That part is very conceptual (drm api-dependent) and would be common
> regardless of my deployment infrastructure. In other words, everyone can
> just write their own co-occurrence analysis version hopefully easier than
> just writing it directly for Spark or directly to H20 if he/she wanted to.
> that's the real story (at least in my talk).
> 


I agree with this 110%.

In fact, I would argue that if all the engines worked just the same that
there would be absolutely no reason to have more than one.  It is precisely
the differences that make having more than one important.

The goal of the DSL is to minimize the gratuitous aspects of those
differences so that you can relatively easily make use of the virtues of
one engine or another.

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