Hello Urska,
first of all, thank you for your kind words. It does bring some heat to the hearts of many, here.
Besides, I also wanted to tell you how right you are. It is not because we don't have any money that we can't do anything.
I would like to seize this opportunity to thank Jacqueline and John for all the amazing work they have done and are doing, as well as the other MP members.
Despite the lack of money and ressources, you've been achieving some tremendous results, that, I wish, will get confirmed an strenghtened the day we will have an international foundation able to pour money where it is needed.
I also understand, but don't support the other position that was to claim that all what we're doing is useless because we lack of money. It's not. It's not and it would fruitless and even dangerous for our entire community. We must improve ourselves, and work towards a better community, a better product, a perennial and sustainable, vendor-indepent source code. But for this to be done, we should stand united, and not fall into the division.
Best Regards,
Charles-H. Schulz.
Urska Colner wrote:
hi all
after reading this thread, i got really concerned about the way this conversation is going.
being deeply involved in this project myself for a couple of years now (mostly locally, though), i have the greatest respect for all of you, leads, co-leads and other volunteers, who put so much effort and time into this project, (most of you) not getting anything in return for it.
the thing that bothered me most in your discussions is the 'this isn't going anywhere' attitude. i can tell you for a fact that two years ago only 5 people in my country knew about OOo. today, everyone knows about it and most people either use it or keep it on a cd somewhere. every new version of OOo gets on a CD of every computer magazine and OOo documents are the most downloaded files from our server. to me, this is 'going in the right direction'.
and not only this: the whole project thing made people believing again about how much can be done if you just put a little effort in it. if everyone contributes a small portion, you can do great things.
so, basically, i just wanted to let you know that, in my opinion, even though money helps keep things going, its the people (and their ideas) behind the scenes that are the project's greatest value.
thanks for reading through.
urska
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
+1 to everything Jean said. this place seems to move slower than a snail
Really? Are you just saying that or are you seriously so ignorant of what is going on and what you can do? Or do you just want to insult people?
I am a highly informed member of the community, and the community representative at the community council. I completely agree with Jason.
Well of course. Jason agrees with Jean, jean agrees with Daniel, Daniel agrees with jason. We are not surprised.
OOo is moves at glacial speed. Any new idea is shot upon sight. I spend great effort trying to contribute, but my efforts are for naught. Even the simplest change has to be fought tooth and nail over the course of several months. Frustration is evident everywhere, I see it every day, it gets discussed all the time. As someone recently said, fork is in the air.
Think of it in these terms. Some ideas are better then others.
Sincerely,
Cheers Louis
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