Daniel I'll make this my last.  Alex I think you misread my post.  It
was directed towards DC Parris.  I mainly agree with you.

On 5/10/05, Alex Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 May 2005 10:10, Adam Moore wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > > It replaced my Windows.  Our organization uses no non-libre software.
> > > Nor will we.  We will not sacrifice our freedom for some hotsy-totsy
> > > technology.  If it's not libre it's useless.
> >
> > Why is it useless?  What about open source software makes you more
> > free than other software. Does other software not let you get your
> > work done?
> 
> To be completely honest, I don't really give a s%*# about either aspect.
> Provided software is not exorbitantly priced (value for money), and does not
> have draconian licensing terms (I can install/rte-install it on all my
> machines that I currently have, or may upgrade to in the future), is stable
> and reasonably easy to administer (which IMO rules out Windows), then I'll
> use it. I use Linux simply because of its stability and powerful
> administration tools. not simply because it is free (in either sense). For my
> uses, it is the most suitable.
> 
> As an aside, I'll be upgrading one of my machines over the week-end. The old
> one will become a local file server and FTP/rsync server. It will initially
> run Linux, but will probably be changed to run one of the BSD systems,
> because for some of the usage I have in mind, BSD is more suitable than
> Linux.
> >
> > So you have no Macromedia Flash, Shockwave,
> 
> Only the plugins. If I were running Windows, they would still not be on my
> box, since IMO they are way over-priced, and I don't really like the license
> terms. If I need a flash presentation, I have OO.o Impress....
> 
> > adobe acrobat,
> 
> Reader only. I have no need for anything else, since I have OO.o (or Scribus)
> for creating PDF documents
> 
> > or anything
> > else like that on your computer?  I would think it would make for a
> > less enjoyable computing experience.
> 
> What, having them on your machine would make for a less enjoyable experience?
> I guess worrying about the licenses and whether you could afford to pay for
> the next version /could/ detract....
> 
> I personally fail to understand the hoo-hah relating to Java. While it is not
> Open source, the licensing is one of the most liberal non-OSS ones around, it
> is free and freely available, the API is readily available and documented...
> 
> It seems that certain elements in the FOSS movement are concerned that they
> are losing some of their clout and influence. From my POV, they are behaving
> like wannabe dictators. No matter how much OSS may owe them in respect of
> their contributions to where we are now, they do *not* have the right to
> dictate what technologies should or should not be used by Open source
> projects. Unfortunately, the most vocal of them (ESR in particular) are fast
> losing my sympathy. If the keep carrying on like rat-bag fringe loonies, they
> will end up becoming a joke, and lose most (if not all) of their credibility.
> 
> --
> Alex Fisher
> 
> Co-Lead, CD-ROM Project
> 
> OpenOffice.org Marketing
> Community Contact
> Australia/New Zealand
> 
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