Jonathan,

I don't believe that your comments is unfounded and pointless... Or, even if
I did, I hope I'd retain enough charm to disagree with you in a more
pleasant way :-)

I have a few musing thoughts on the subject:

Firstly, while I agree with the desire to build a "robust" grammar checker,
there is a strong argument from linguistics that it may be "impossible" to
build a "perfect" grammar check. Even if we ignore the differences between
North American, Antipodean, and British English, there exist numerous
interpretations of correctness. For this reason, publications like The
Economist, and the Financial Times produce "style guides" for their
contributing authors giving the house usage of such things as the Oxford
comma.

Secondly, well, I've written the paragraph below twice - hopefully you'll
understand why.

1: I agree with you that turning off the grammar checker when writing
technical documents is often necessary because of the overly simplistic
models that they include. However, one perhaps important function of the
grammar checker is to improve "readability". Sentence length, for example,
is a much better correlate of "interpretability" than correct syntax in the
general populace. Groups like programmers who are trained and expert in
thinking about syntax, often in numerous languages, have an advantage in
parsing complex structures.

2: You're right. Most grammar checkers are too simple. I normally turn them
off when writing technical stuff. However, using them can make things easier
to read. Forget correct grammar for the moment. Just keep your sentances
short. This will make it far easier to understand. Programmers have an
advantage, though. Practice in computer languages gives them an edge. They
are used to dealing with complex stuff. They read complex English language
sentances easier than most.

[Note that paragraph 2 contains, I hope (!), rather more grammar errors than
paragraph 1.]

Thirdly, there is much truth in what Chad says. Such tools should be there
to make it easier for people, not to replace them.

Fourthly, and sadly this is where I put my marketing hat on. If the
competition has a "grammar checker", no matter how flakey, then we have to
have one. Otherwise marketeers for the competition will tout the incredibly
valuable nature of this comparative advantage :-)

Regards,

Mark

Oh, and for the record.

John, where James had had "had had",  had had "had".
"Had had" had had the teacher's approval.

:-)



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonathon Blake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Marketing] Abiword and OpenDocument


On 10/5/05, Deepankar Datta  wrote:

> Something else of interest is the English grammar checker they now have

Until grammr checkers can correctly punctuate a sentance such s the
following, a knowledge of grammar will be required:

John where James had had had had had had had  had had had had the
teacher's approval.

xan

jonathon
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