Hello Peter, *

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> I know the voting for the OpenOffice slogan is closed, but I would
> like the marketing team to consider reopening it.

I kept it open three times - do you have an idea when I should close
it?

Up to now 18 people did join the voting - you didn't.
I don't mind keeping it open for another few days, but I don't think,
that there will be more interest in it than before.

> For one reason:
> positioning.  It is my opinion that a slogan should create in the
> reader's mind an idea of some sort.  This idea will persuade them or
> assist them in decision making and form an attitude both before and
> after an action or thought (purchase, support for a cause, agreement,
> etc.).

I'm quite sure, all of us did think of this point when we made our
decisions.
I asked for discussions - but most of the people just gave their points
to one or another vote.

So I assume, that the different slogans spoke for themselves. Just a
few people told their opinion about some of the slogans/positioners:

Mark Harrison did drop a few lines about some types of positioners:
"Upgrade"  - they could become incorrect when MS would launch an OASIS
filter
"hackers" - in the mainstream wrong (negative) meaning
"code contribution" - no need to go for the programmers - they know
about OOo

Some others told why they prefer a slightly modified positioner, but
there was no discussion among different opinions. Now it's you to
come - quite late, but perhaps here will start some type of discussion:

> With all the slogans that I've seen so far, I do not think they
> target the wide audience that OpenOffice is intended to serve
> effectively enough to garner my vote.

You could have added your proposal a few days or weeks ago. If you do
it now I doubt, if the people will change their mind (but why not, if
they want to).

> The numbers of people already using OpenOffice at home are growing
> and I think this is what will ultimately push* and pull* OpenOffice
> into the business, education, and government offices.

I don't think, that using OOo at home is the main reason for
"professional" users to switch from MSO to OOo. There are just a few
people in every company to decide about things like this.
Their reasons for or against a product include
- cost (for the product itself, licenses, training and maintenance)
- stability and usability in the future
- interoperability with other companies
(I'm sure I forgot some important points, but here are enough business
people to add them...)

To convince these people that OpenOffice.org is *not only* a product
for home and educational users is a major task in OOo marketing. Their
idea of open software being buggy and inconvenient to use (pre-beta
state, unfinished features because of lack of programmers) should be
changed by some of the proposals - and one of them was given some
points by more than 70% of the people joining the voting.

> By having a slogan that
> leaves out the home and education user (students & teachers) by
> omission, it gives the implication that OpenOffice may not be as
> useful for those purposes as we know it to be.

My personal opinion is, that they do know about OpenOffice.org - or can
be reached much easier than the "business"-users. If you ask a student:
"Do you want to get an office suite for free, that can be used in large
companies as well?", you will certainly don't get a "No".

> [... Thoughts on Microsoft strategy with slightly different editions
> for very different charge ...]  I think it vitally important that
> OpenOffice not omit any of these audiences in it's marketing mix.  I
> think the OpenOffice community can position OpenOffice as the suite
> for all of these target audiences with one slogan.  Something on the
> order of "OpenOffice: For Business, Education, & Home...It's all you
> need!"

As positioner I think it to be a bit too long - but even "Open - for
business, school and home" is less catchy than "Open. For business." -
and sounds less professoinal, IMHO a major point for business people.

> [...]
>
We can discuss it further - but I don't see a chance to adress *all*
user groups with the positioner (even if this would be the optimum) in
the moment. I don't want to neglect the "professionalism" part of the
marketing strategy - but perhaps you and /or someone else may help us
with the "ultimative" slogan.
- address "business people", large companies and governmental
administrations
   - home and educational users
   - small and medium companies
   - programmers and other possible supporters
- tell that we are an international community
   - with lots of different contributors and localizations
   - that OpenOffice.org supports OASIS ODF
   - that it is free to use, distribute and modify
   - that it is (in many parts) equal to or even better tham MS Office.

OpenOffice.org is too widespread to find a slogan dealing with all of
it's different targets - so I hoped to get one out of this voting that
many of the marketing experienced people here think to be good for OOo.

Best regards

Bernhard


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