Chuck,

On 2005-12-07, at 10:04 , Chuck Player wrote:

I've also unsubscribed from the mailing list. If the grade school bully type responses to opinions are status quo, I don't need the additional messages
in my in box.

I can't exactly apologise on behalf of OpenOffice.org for the unmannerly and juvenile responses of the list members who replied to you but the responses were not characteristic of OOo, or at least of what it should be. We aim to hold ourselves to higher standards than that, and I ask that you reconsider joining this project.

Our mail list guidelines are here, http://www.openoffice.org/ ml_guidelines.html, and all are to be held to the guidelines described there. Rudeness is not permitted and repeated instances will result in the subscriber being booted from the list.

I am sorry I didn't respond earlier to John White's post. But I'll address it directly.

It is indeed legal to sell LGPL licensed software. In the case of OOo, the location of the source is clearly present upon starting up, so a developer can get it if she wants. Is selling it ethical? That depends on several things, the most important being, of course, Is the seller making a buck off the ignorance of his buyer? Or is the seller adding value, either the value of more stuff or of convenience? If the former, then it's clearly verging into the unethical, as duping anyone is unethical. If the latter, no, it's ethical and even good. In fact, we have a courtesy list of CDROM distributors here, http://distribution.openoffice.org/cdrom/ . One of its purposes is to normalise what is offered and police behaviour.

The listing John cited,<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=6825770026&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch %2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D6825770026%26fvi%3D1>, WINDOWS SOFTWARE SUPER SUITE CD, is one I've seen before. They are actually selling 1.1.4, and they refer to OOo directly. If I were to approach them, I'd ask them to work with us, not exploit us.

Best,

Louis





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Louis Suarez-Potts
Community Manager
OpenOffice.org


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