Louis Suarez-Potts schreef:
Hello,
On 2006-02-04, at 13:06 , Ian Lynch wrote:
On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 18:38 +0100, Steven Pauwels wrote:
These recurring discussions mean that there is a need... and the CC
refuses to egnoledge this need.
Seems so - glad you said it not me though ;-)
maybe we could use moodle? Nice and adaptable, but I am sure there are
other tools. If we need hosting with php and mysql support, I will
provide it.
Maybe there should be a fundamental re-think about how participation
occurs. In education here all the talk is about Web 2.0 and it changing
the paradigm for learning because students can freely form their own
learning communities and easily collaborate to create new information.
Wikipedia shows that you can give more freedom than was thought
sensible
and by opening up the contributions more resources come to the table.
There has been quite a lot of talk about Wikis - maybe its time to
analyse all aspects of the project and decide which essentially need to
be secure through SSH tunnels etc and which can be openly participative
Wiki-style. There is a potential reduction in costs for Sun in doing
this because it reduces the demand for Collabnet. That of course might
be a political thing in that Collabnet might not want to reduce its
contribution but even if the same resource was committed better value
would be achieved because that resource would be more focussed and one
would therefore expect better quality in that area of the work. Hosting
a Wiki is really trivial, getting one started is trivial, the
non-trivial bit is to get agreement from the CC to do it under the name
of OpenOffice.org. Personally I can't see any disadvantage in things
like the marketing project and documentation projects being wikis.
Probably a number of the others too but I don't know enough about them.
The advantage would be that it would be easier to contribute and any
lowering of the barriers to participation has to be a good thing.
I'm kind of lost here... we *have* wikis. I have pointed members of
this project to our main page and we (the OOo community) use the site
a lot:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page
So, what is the problem, then?
We have used them for writing press releases and for other marketing
things, like synchronizing the 2.0.1 release and now will surely use
it for the 2.0.2 release and beyond. We also use it for other
marketing related things.
You might also want to look at the recent discussions in the CC. We
touch on the things you mention.
Best,
Louis
Hi all,
I have not read the entire thread yet but as always, there are good ideas :)
My question last week: how many times can a skilled volunteer say he
wants to help out? Or should I start where I started 22 years ago?
The answer right now:
So this is what I *want* to do for MP if the MP *lets* me do it:
- change the MP wiki to be usefull because the idea gets a lot of support.
- start a discussion on the items I find fundamental for the succes of
OOo marketing one by one and get a consencus. I will drop the effort on
a posted item if the discussion goes viral or back to fundamentals on
infrastructure. (because I want to change it and I will do so starting
with the marketing wiki.)
Now I want to know how to change the wiki (not the content, the wiki). :)
Steven P
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