Hi Steven,

Steven Pauwels wrote:

Please do not mistake that trying to have a sensible discussion about
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But I have seen very strange reactions to only giving an oppinion. And that is why I did not do anything anymore but try to get people to react in order to have an idea why this list goes wrong when a post about fundamentals to markerting is made.

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Do not comment unless you want to contribute to obtaining a result.

As for now, I may not have done the major part of he work here, but I sure asked many times if there was anything I could do. And than came reactions from others that it is not clear at all what should be done.
My reaction was straight forward. However rather short, so you may have missed it between the rather verbose other replys ;-)

I do not claim to know everything, but what I do know is what needs to be done to get marketing for OOo not only a 'einzel' effort. As do others I met here.

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I have no doubt about that. However, as you pointed out yourselve, I rather start in the center. t.i. international strategy.
I did not (intend to) suggest to stay in the center. It is an inportant meeting point.

What matters more, is what will give you the feeling that you are more productive? 1) We do have a SMP. It is needeed, possibly can be improved. But does it stimulate people to do more? I doubt. 2) From the SMP follows a list of to-do's, more or less important, more or less urgent. 3) The recently set up Wiki is a very good step indeed to make things more visible - I suppose the to-do's list is anchored in the SMP.
4) Then there are two things left:
- the project leads help people with questions, so that they can find the place where their need/contribution fitts in the to-do's; - the project leads ask (on this and maybe other lists) for resources if it is desireble that a task (from the to-do's) is done.

And then the circle is complete.

Writing new marketing plans or improving the current SMP might be usefull. However, IMO it's rather silly not (as well) to :
- inform the press about the OOo MacTel aplha build,
- inform our contacts about the good things that 2.0.2 will deliver shortly,
- improve the documentation or make new,
- organize user meetings,
- work on a nice Dutch OOo CD (I've seen a little bit of the CD from the German NLproject, and that's a very inspiring example!),
- and so on and so on.

I foresee (and that's not so difficult) that a new plan will nót make 'all stand up as one to do the good work'. You've seen this list go wrong, as you write. So be aware.

Kind regards,
Cor



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