On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:22, Charles-H.Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > Ian Lynch wrote: > >On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 00:56 +0200, Cristian Driga wrote: > >>I would've loved if you had looked in the existing to-dos, if you had > >>checked what others tried to bring new using the wiki lately and helped > >>them where you could. But no, seems that moving a site around is more > >>important to you. > > > >I think that is a bit unfair given how much work Daniel has done on > >supporting OOo overall. > > What? This is a joke right? What did he do, seriously? I mean, what did > he do on OpenOffice.org that didn't disrupt, flame or do anything else > than that here? I'm trying to recall myself what he did but I really can't.
...wrote the Javascript and stuff to make the Distributor's page work better. There are others, scattered around in different projects. That is one that I personally am intimately familiar with. He actually suggested the concept (on the Website list IIRC) of using JS and <div> tags on the main download page, to make it easier to find a mirror. He was shouted down, told that it wouldn't work, and generally poo-pooed. I contacted him off list, and used his idea. Guess what? It works, and works well. Finding a CD distributor near you is now considerable easier, thanks to Daniel's efforts. Yes, I know his suggestions often seem to set of a flame war, but in many cases that is actually due to one or more of the responses to his suggestions. Kindly remember that English is not Daniel's mother tongue, which leads to a series of mis-interpretations, which in turn leads to people responding in a seemingly over vehement tone, which triggers the flames. I've now been involved with OO.o for abut 5 years so far, and I've seen everything that Daniel and others have put forward on this and several other lists. Daniel frequently has very good ideas. Problem is, he has problems explaining to others precisely what he envisages, and instead of quietly asking for more clarification, many folk simply jump on him. Of course, he then snaps back. May I suggest that in the future, when anyone makes any suggestion in what may seem to be an "aggressive" (for lack of a better term) tone, that everyone take a deep breath, consider whether the poster is a native English speaker, if not then make allowances for that, and then wait until the next day before responding. During that day, consider carefully whether or not their suggestion might perhaps have some merit. Usually you'll find that it does. Then, if you don't like the way things are phrased, ASK for clarification before you fire of a hasty reply. In my 5 years, virtually every "flame war" has started because one or more others have not paused in the way I suggest above. Think about it, folks..... > > > Like me he is pretty busy at the moment with > >work so not much time for more than monitoring and seeing what is going > >on. In the context of the current debate his suggestions are not > >particularly outrageous but are not likely to be realised for all the > >same historical reasons. So on that I agree with you Cristian, best to > >drop it. > > > >I personally think that the best solution is to carry on developing the > >Wiki and let Steven develop his site with the help of anyone that wants > >to help. See what happens. In the end quality should prevail. > > Charles. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alex Fisher Co-Lead, CD-ROM Project OpenOffice.org Marketing Community Contact Australia/New Zealand http://distribution.openoffice.org/cdrom/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
