John McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, November 26, 2009 6:59 pm, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
[snip]
1. ODF branding is important, but should not lead to weakening of OOo
branding on user's desktops.

2. The OOo document icons are part of our visual identity and therefore
used in several marketing areas. We should not give up this chance as
there might be an alternative (icons with both branding elements).

I remember how annoyed I was when I installed an early beta of Lotus
Symphony and it replaced all my OOo desktop icons with the horribly garish
IBM ones.

Isn't this a general issue? Whatever installation comes last provides the icons.


As ODF becomes established, users may well have multiple ODF supporting
applications on their desktops. So IMHO having all those applications
sharing a standard set of desktop icons is not terribly useful. Users need
to know what application will start when they click an icon.


Unfortunately, there can only be one icon per file format with current desktop environments regardless of the number of supporting applications installed, as well different users might have a different preferences to choose standard or application specific icons, hence there has to be a solution to meet the users will in an easy way.

General remark: I didn't find the time to read the whole discussion here, so I might reiterate things that have already been said. Anyway I think this discussion is mostly happening at the wrong place. As we have often emphasized "OOo is not equal ODF". Consequently, a standardized set of icons for ODF should be specified and provided by the ODF Adoption TC at OASIS [1]. Subsequently the ODF Adoption TC would recommend the use of this icon set to the implementers and later measure the success of its work.

Personal remark: I would strongly prefer standardized icon sets for any file format. IMHO the clear type recognition should be the main priority for ease of use. A consistent set of icons provided by the desktop seems to be very nice from the artwork point of view, but sometimes leads to hardly distinguishable similarities.

Best regards,
Peter

[1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/workgroup.php?wg_abbrev=odf-adoption

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