Dear all,

I too support to enhance real-life OOoCon with more virtual elements, it will 
allow more people form different countries, different communities, to join and 
contribute ideas. Furthermore, by allow more  people to join in the Conference 
virtually, it will definitely become more energy efficient.

Sadly but to say, COP15 is on the verge of failure. No matter we are from which 
community, there must be a way(or ways) for us to continue our work in good 
manner, as mentioned by Cor, and still able to make positive contribution 
protecting the environment, reducing carbon emission.

Regards,
Colin Ng.
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From: Cor Nouws [[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [marketing] Virtual OOoCon 2011?

Hi Florian,

Florian Effenberger wrote (17-12-09 07:59)
> Hi John,
>
>> But would you think the same if you lived in New Zealand - or Canada - or
>> Vietnam?
>>
>> I enjoy OOoCons very much, meeting old friends, and making new ones. I
>> don't know how effective they are for attracting new community members. A
>> team needs to be already well established and successful to make a
>> successful bid for an OOoCon. We have never held an OOoCon in North
>> America, where our presence is comparatively weak.
>>
>> I don't know whether a virtual OOoCon would be more successful in
>> building
>> the community. It would certainly cause less damage to the planet.
>>
>> I think this is a valuable discussion, and would encourage others to
>> join in!
>
> I really see the problems, and I know that "we Europeans" are in a quite
> comfortable situation, and others have it much harder to join us.
>
> We can work on this, we can improve the situation -- either by getting
> more funding, or by better integrating a virtual element into our
> conferences: thinking of live streams, participation via Skype or IRC,
> and such.
>
> However, I think it does help no one if we cancel our "real life
> conferences". Folks from New Zealand, Canada or Vietnam won't meet
> people face to face nontheless, and the others would lose a great
> ability to meet with friends and community.
>
> I also do know that it cost a lot of effort -- time, money -- to run an
> OOoCon, and we can also see if we can improve things on this end.
> However, I'm still not convinced at all that cancelling OOoCon or moving
> it to a two-year rhythm helps anyone. I doubt many people would attend a
> virtual conference at all, and we'd lose a great way of communication.
>
> Again, we can enhance the current "real life" conferences with some more
> virtual elements, or have a separate virtual OOoCon (I favor the first
> variant), but I'm against having a two-year scheme.

This is a look to the situation from perspective of our success, how
good our conferences are, how important they are.
A different perspective is to include environmental factors in the
picture. So that the question would be: how can we still do our work in
a good manner, but with less costs for the environment (which we still
not really feel in our spendings - not yet).
The interesting thing is, that this question, brought up by John, also
makes us aware of existing bottle necks etc. that maybe can addressed
with a different approach as well.
So could we make a win win of it? Yes we can!

Regards,
Cor


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   - Community Contributor Representative in the Community Council
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