Hi Alexandro, everyone, 2010/8/26 Alexandro Colorado <[email protected]>
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Mirek M. <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Varun, everyone, > > > > 2010/8/25 Varun Mittal <[email protected]> > > > >> Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. > > > > > > Oracle filed a patent suit against Google's implementation of Oracle's > > open-source Java in Google's open-source Android OS. How does that not > > undermine Oracle's relationship to open-source? > > Well Google didn't use open source to start with. When Java was > "liberated" it created an OpenJDK platform. Danger (the original > company that created android) forked J2ME which is NOT free. So they > had that risk from the start, they just bet that Sun would never sue > them for that. > I thought J2ME was open-sourced in 2006 under the GNU GPL... BTW, here is Oracle's complaint: http://mobile.venturebeat.com/2010/08/12/oracle-sues-google-over-android/ (scroll down) > > >> > >> Any Open Source project is dependent on its community and not on a > company > >> for its survival. > > > > > > You're right. That's one of the best things about open-source -- a good > > project never dies (unless it's killed by patent suits). > > Well the linux kernel is "killed" by patents from microsoft, yet I > havent seen it slow down by any means. Remember Microsoft lawsuits to > TomTom and HTC over patents over the Linux Kernel and the > indemnification contracts against Linux distros such as Novell and > others? You're right, the Linux kernel lives on. That doesn't mean that there aren't projects that haven't been destroyed or hurt by patent suits. It's usually the smaller, budding projects that this hurts, because those don't have the same kind of financial support or customer backing that big projects do. > >> Secondly market has enough MS hater corporates who would >> like to support anything which hurt MS on its one of the most profitable > >> products. > >> > > > > Actually, most people hate MS because of its "evil" monopolistic tactics > > used in killing the competition. That's exactly how Oracle is now > behaving: > > it's attacking one of the most successful fruits of open-source because > of a > > ridiculous patent suit concerning, surprisingly, its open-source Java. > And > > that really makes me move away from Oracle... > > > > Anyway, I really hope OOo is branched by some other company that will > really > > dedicate time and (donated or ad-gained) money to the suite, really make > it > > the best possible office suite ever, take over its massive user base. > > > Well OpenOffice.org is also carry by Novell, IBM and other companies, > however that is not the point. Novell and IBM contribute, but that doesn't mean they control it. They have their own branches of OOo, but, unfortunately, Novell's Go-oo is just a patched version of the mainstream OOo (it's not an independent project) and IBM's Lotus Symphony is proprietary. > OpenOffice.org is not modifying Java > and forking it, also there is really no connection between Google's > success and Oracle lawsuit. After all if you were only watching > newspapers, this lawsuit came 1 week after Eric Schmidt said that they > will have 1 billion Android phones in less than 5 years. This was just > an invite for companies to capitalize out of others success. The > "medium" which they choose, possibly is the quickest and more > aggressive. In the end, is just business as usual. > What?? If Mozilla says it has reached a billion Firefox downloads, is it inviting others to sue them? Is it really the one to blame for getting hit with a patent suit when they announce this? > -- > Alexandro Colorado > OpenOffice.org Español > http://es.openoffice.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > -- -------------------------------------------- Q: Why is this email five sentences or less? A: http://five.sentenc.es
