Hello Italo, *

thanks for your response.

But Alexandro is involved in some way in TDF, as it seems he manages the
official es.libreoffice.org site. Doesn't he?

See  http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/es/discuss/msg00057.html

where he asks for contributions to the http://es.libreoffice.org/ site,
as he were the site manager.

Furthermore, oooes.org is being promoted in the site too. The local
archive list for the site es.libreoffice.org is pointed to oooes.org:

http://es.libreoffice.org/contribuye/

Sincerely, I'm atonished about the mess.

Anyway, thanks again for your previous answer, as I understand you don't
have any duty on doing so.

Best Regards,

Ramon


> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 02:23:06 +0100
> From: Italo Vignoli <[email protected]>
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> 
> On 12/21/2010 12:21 AM, Ramon Sole wrote:
> 
>> well, documentfoundation.es was registered by Alexandro, and he stated
>> himself in the OpenOffice.org Spanish lists he was in thight
>> relationship with the TDF about that domain.
> 
> We have registered only the international domains for TDF, while we have 
> registered the national domains for LibreOffice (because it makes sense 
> to have local product web sites). Alexandro has tried to get involved, 
> but has not managed to get involved. Unfortunately, Internet rules allow 
> some mess, and the registration of the web site is part of this mess.
> 
>> If you can read a little Spanish you will find interested that message,
>> about a (one more) discussion with Alexandro and his involvement in TDF
>> (regarding the documentfoundation.es domain that time) while keeping, in
>> OpenOffice.org, the Spanish NLP leadership.
>>
>> http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=users&msgNo=9186
>>
>> Alexandro states "Yo hablo directamente con el webmaster de
>> DocumentFoundation.org --  Florian Effemberg". It translates to "I talk
>> directly to the webmaster of DocumentFoundation.org --  Florian Effemberg"
>>
>> So I inferred Alexandro was involved with TDF, at least in some way,
>> just because he himself stated it. If not, sorry for my mistake.
> 
> I can definitely read Spanish (I'm Italian, and in addition I speak a 
> little Spanish). Everyone in the OOo community knows Florian, so it's 
> easy to say that you speak with him. But if you look at TDF web site, 
> you will realize who are the people behind the project.
> 
>> And I agree, the mess concerns just the OpenOffice.org Spanish
>> Community. I apologize for involving TDF on it and I thank you for your
>> message.
> 
> The mess, unfortunately, refers to the entire Spanish speaking 
> community, because the situation risks to make it under represented in 
> every free software project.
> 
>> BTW, if Alexandro has no relationship with TDF then you have a problem
>> with the domain documentfoundation.es, it has been kidnapped. See below.
> 
> This is a minor problem. We own the trademark, and no one can use the 
> trademark unless authorized by TDF. A domani without a chance of being 
> associated with a trademark is just empty.
> 
> -- 
> Italo Vignoli
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> 
> 
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