Members present: m1s, wastl, westei, jfrank, wikier ---------------- Meeting summary: ----------------
1. Preface 2. wiki a. http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/WikiFAQ#What_syntax_are_you_using_in_the_wiki? (wikier, 2) b. start the wiki migration (MARMOTTA-3) (wastl, 2) 3. jira a. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MARMOTTA#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Acomponents-panel (wikier, 3) 4. website a. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5624?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13567697#comment-13567697 (wastl, 4) 5. ipmc report 6. versioning a. wastl: finish versioning component (wastl, 6) b. wikier: ldp implementation (wastl, 6) c. tkurz revisit versioning web services (wastl, 6) d. jfrank: solr-clustering (jfrank, 6) 7. aob -------- Actions: -------- - start the wiki migration (MARMOTTA-3) (wastl, 09:14:40) - wastl: finish versioning component (wastl, 09:44:36) - wikier: ldp implementation (wastl, 09:44:49) - tkurz revisit versioning web services (wastl, 09:44:57) - jfrank: solr-clustering (jfrank, 09:45:20) IRC log follows: # 1. Preface # 09:05:33 [wastl]: my topics: versioning, wiki 09:05:54 [wikier]: for me just some apache-related bureaucracy 09:06:09 [wikier]: not technical news 09:06:17 [wastl]: wiki is bureaucracy :) 09:06:40 [wastl]: website also 09:06:54 [wastl]: (there is action needed on our side) 09:07:02 [wastl]: Jakob? 09:08:04 [wastl]: ok, let's start and Jakob can add topics later # 2. wiki # 09:08:24 [wastl]: Wiki has been setup by asfinfra 09:08:32 [wastl]: Sergio is already admin 09:08:32 [wikier]: yes 09:08:34 [wastl]: and needs to add the rest of us 09:08:39 [wastl]: (just received the mail) 09:08:40 [wikier]: I have edit rights 09:08:48 [wastl]: you should have admin also 09:08:57 [wikier]: so I'll add all of you 09:09:09 [wikier]: ACTION needs to remember how MoinMoin is administer 09:09:18 [wastl]: that would indeed be good :) 09:09:32 [jfrank]: sorry for the delay - just registered in wiki... 09:09:47 [wikier]: np 09:09:54 [wastl]: so once the wiki is setuo 09:09:54 [wikier]: as soon as you get your accounts, please let me know 09:10:02 [wastl]: I have 09:10:02 [wastl]: SebastianSchaffert 09:10:09 [jfrank]: me too 09:10:11 [jfrank]: JakobFrank 09:10:17 [wastl]: but back to the content: 09:10:32 [wastl]: we should now start putting content into the wiki, especially documentation 09:10:39 [wikier]: exactly 09:10:47 [wastl]: I suggest as a start we can migrate what we have on Google Code 09:11:02 [wikier]: same structure? 09:11:04 [wastl]: for now yes 09:11:09 [wastl]: (I suggest) 09:11:11 [wikier]: actually the syntax is more or less the same 09:11:24 [wikier]: MARMOTTA-3 09:11:26 [wastl]: yes, but Google Code has some advanced features 09:11:39 [jfrank]: do we use them 09:11:40 [jfrank]: ? 09:11:54 [wastl]: um 09:12:09 [jfrank]: ASFBot joined after MARMOTTA-3 09:12:24 [wikier]: yes, jfrank is right 09:12:26 [wastl]: ah no, Jakob is right 09:12:50 [wikier]: #link http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/WikiFAQ#What_syntax_are_you_using_in_the_wiki? 09:13:21 [wastl]: yes ok, so wikier, can you start migrating the relevant content? 09:13:40 [wastl]: (not urgent, but we should start) 09:14:02 [wikier]: ok 09:14:17 [wikier]: #start the wiki migration (MARMOTTA-3) 09:14:27 [wikier]: btw, I already grant you with karma there 09:14:32 [wikier]: check you can edit 09:14:40 [wastl]: #action start the wiki migration (MARMOTTA-3) 09:15:03 [wastl]: yes I can 09:15:12 [wikier]: xD 09:15:20 [wikier]: wrong syntax 09:15:23 [wikier]: cool 09:15:50 [wikier]: apache sends all wiki diffs to [email protected] :-O 09:15:50 [wikier]: ok # 3. jira # 09:16:13 [wikier]: there are two details there 09:16:20 [wikier]: components 09:16:20 [wikier]: and workflow 09:16:28 [wikier]: regarding the components 09:16:50 [wikier]: let's add what you suggested 09:17:06 [wikier]: so "libraries" does not make sense now 09:17:06 [jfrank]: summary? 09:17:20 [wastl]: "libraries" is too generic 09:17:27 [wastl]: jfrank: see mail 09:18:07 [wastl]: in general I think we should align components and responsibilities somehow 09:18:08 [wikier]: ok, I'll change it 09:18:27 [wastl]: because the component maintainer is automatically assigned to an issue 09:18:42 [wastl]: therefore "libraries" is too generic 09:18:50 [wastl]: "Core" also 09:19:05 [jfrank]: core would be "server" or "ldp" 09:19:27 [wastl]: well, we have "Webservices", which covers ldp a bit 09:19:42 [jfrank]: are sub-components possible? 09:19:44 [wikier]: ummm 09:19:50 [wikier]: let me check 09:19:57 [wastl]: I think not 09:19:58 [wikier]: actually, wastl you should be able to do it too 09:20:15 [wastl]: but you can use components like tags 09:20:19 [wastl]: yes 09:20:19 [wastl]: I just wanted to discuss it first 09:20:27 [wikier]: jfrank: no, only one level 09:20:42 [wikier]: that was my initial idea 09:20:42 [wastl]: it is not really levels, it is tags 09:20:42 [wikier]: has umbrella components 09:20:50 [wikier]: and then use proper tagging 09:20:58 [wikier]: but maybe "libraries" is too generic, indeed 09:21:00 [wastl]: the components are also tags, or not? 09:21:06 [wikier]: no 09:21:21 [wikier]: you can not restrict tags per components 09:21:43 [jfrank]: but you can assign multiple components 09:22:14 [wastl]: yes 09:23:27 [wikier]: yes 09:23:42 [wastl]: don't know who is assigned then, though :) 09:23:57 [jfrank]: So i see the following top-level components: Sesame-Tools, KiWi, LDPath, LDClient, LDP/Server 09:24:20 [wastl]: currently yes 09:24:27 [wastl]: the problem is we are a bit in a transition phase 09:24:37 [wastl]: and I also see 09:24:42 [wastl]: Client Library 09:24:43 [jfrank]: +1 09:25:20 [wikier]: #link https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MARMOTTA#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Acomponents-panel 09:25:50 [wikier]: this is the current list 09:26:05 [wastl]: yes 09:26:12 [jfrank]: And also some meta-components: BuildEnv, Dissemination, Website/Wiki 09:26:42 [wastl]: they are already there 09:27:20 [wastl]: so basically it leaves splitting up the "libraries" a bit 09:28:20 [jfrank]: renaming "Clients" and "Core", removing "Admin Interface", maybe also "Extras"... 09:28:34 [wastl]: Admin Interface should remain 09:28:42 [wastl]: extras is too fuzzy 09:28:49 [wikier]: yes 09:29:19 [jfrank]: Admin Interface is imho part of Server 09:29:27 [wikier]: so, one component per every single software component? 09:29:34 [wikier]: drupal, refine, etc 09:29:34 [wikier]: ? 09:30:05 [wastl]: not sure 09:30:12 [wastl]: it depends on responsibilities 09:30:13 [jfrank]: "integration" 09:30:20 [wastl]: with LDClient and LDCache it is quite clear 09:30:50 [wastl]: not so sure with Sesame Tools 09:30:59 [wastl]: could be covered by Triple Store 09:31:34 [wikier]: at some point I see Sesame Tools being contribute to upstream 09:31:42 [wikier]: so not sure 09:31:57 [jfrank]: wouldn't merge them either 09:32:05 [wastl]: ok, so extra component 09:33:14 [wikier]: let's continue the discussion at the mailing list 09:33:27 [wastl]: ok, I already updated a but 09:33:27 [wastl]: bit 09:33:34 [wikier]: wastl: send a proposal 09:33:34 [wikier]: ah, ok 09:33:50 [wastl]: sorry :) 09:33:57 [wikier]: so describe it there 09:34:05 [wikier]: no, that's fine 09:34:05 [wikier]: ;-) 09:35:51 [wikier]: ok, next topic # 4. website # 09:36:08 [wastl]: there is a comment open from INFRA 09:36:14 [wastl]: maybe you can reply to it? 09:36:27 [wikier]: umm... let me check 09:36:59 [wastl]: #link https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5624?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13567697#comment-13567697 09:37:06 [wastl]: update issue component to CMS 09:37:19 [wikier]: ok... 09:37:27 [wastl]: since you created the issue I cannot do it:) 09:37:34 [wikier]: done 09:38:04 [wastl]: ok 09:38:12 [wastl]: next topic :) 09:38:19 [wastl]: any more bureaucracy topics? # 5. ipmc report # 09:39:06 [wikier]: basically I'll add to the wiki an updated version of the draft I sent 09:39:13 [wikier]: later this morning 09:39:19 [wastl]: yes great 09:39:34 [wikier]: so, let's switch to actual coding topics 09:39:34 [wastl]: so the workflow is to add the report to the incubator wiki, or not? 09:39:43 [wikier]: yes, directly to the wiki 09:39:49 [westei]: yes 09:39:51 [westei]: and a mentor needs to sign it 09:39:58 [wikier]: and then the mentors need to sign it 09:40:12 [wastl]: ok 09:40:19 [wastl]: so Andy is in principle online 09:40:27 [wastl]: if you do it quickly enough ... :) 09:40:37 [wikier]: deadline is Feb 6 09:40:43 [wikier]: np 09:41:05 [jfrank]: this is our last monthly report? 09:41:07 [wastl]: yes 09:41:36 [wastl]: let's move to coding :) # 6. versioning # 09:42:19 [wastl]: very briefly: I will today finish re-integrating the versioning component 09:42:34 [wastl]: Thomas can take over the revision of the webservice then 09:42:42 [wastl]: topic end :) 09:42:45 [wastl]: next week reasoner 09:42:57 [wikier]: cool 09:43:42 [wastl]: next topic? 09:44:04 [wikier]: I don't have anything nw to report 09:44:13 [wikier]: today fully dedicated to ldp implementation 09:44:20 [wikier]: but no new news 09:44:20 [wastl]: and tasks for today (scrum style) 09:44:20 [wastl]: ok 09:44:27 [wastl]: so 09:44:36 [wastl]: #action wastl: finish versioning component 09:44:49 [wastl]: #action wikier: ldp implementation 09:44:57 [wastl]: #action tkurz revisit versioning web services 09:45:13 [wastl]: jfrank? 09:45:20 [jfrank]: #action jfrank: solr-clustering 09:45:30 [wastl]: cool :) 09:45:42 [wikier]: wastl: tiki taka ;-) 09:45:49 [wikier]: #aob # 7. aob # 09:45:57 [wikier]: aob? 09:46:19 [wastl]: just a reminder for planning the week 11th-15th 09:46:34 [wastl]: I'd like to add the integration tests for the server components again 09:46:57 [wastl]: it is really amazing how many problems can be avoided by testing early on :) 09:47:27 [wastl]: Lucy demo should then run again as well 09:47:27 [wastl]: and 09:47:30 [wastl]: installer should work again 09:47:42 [wastl]: (just to keep these things in mind) 09:47:43 [jfrank]: lucy is waiting for reasoning... 09:47:50 [wikier]: lucy or linda? 09:47:57 [wikier]: xD 09:47:57 [wastl]: yes, therefore the week 11th-15th :) 09:48:04 [wastl]: Linda the Marmot :) 09:48:19 [m1s]: linda ? 09:49:12 [westei]: we where joking renaming the persona Lucy to Linda now that the project is called marmotta 09:49:12 [wikier]: m1s: Lucy is our character for an integrated demo, but maybe we are changing it to Linda in honor to the failed name at Apache 09:49:27 [wikier]: anyway 09:49:42 [wikier]: integration and demos for the week 11-15 09:49:50 [wikier]: anything else? 09:49:57 [wastl]: we can also use the random name generator for Star Trek every time someone starts the demo :) 09:50:12 [wastl]: no 09:50:20 [wikier]: so geek... 09:50:35 [jfrank]: ACTION is back coding... 09:50:50 [wastl]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geek_Pride_Day 09:51:07 [m1s]: +1 09:51:21 [wikier]: ok, let's close xD
