No, I think everything is here. The "daemon" idea is the best way to handle
this problem, basically, we need to have a Marvin agent running inside the
container responsible to receive and run the commands from outside. But I
didn't get the part related to Jupyter.


Em sex., 13 de mar. de 2020 às 15:15, Lucas Cardoso Silva <
cardosolucas61....@gmail.com> escreveu:

> I did some testing with the Docker API. The only problem is that a
> container needs a process running to stay active, if it does not exist the
> instance stop before receiving the command through the API. There is the
> possibility to maintain an infinite and inexpensive process like: tail -f /
> dev / null (not a good idea). Another possibility would be refactor the
> part of the marvin that would remain in the container to become a daemon or
> leave an instance of Jupyter running (the easy way). Is there any other
> possibility that I'm not seeing?
>
> Em sex., 13 de mar. de 2020 às 15:46, Daniel Takabayashi <
> daniel.takabaya...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
> > Take a look at the Docker API https://docs.docker.com/engine/api/v1.24/,
> I
> > believe this will simplify the solution. Cause if you add another layer
> > (Flask application) you going to need to control/manage this layer as
> well,
> > creating a chicken and egg problem.
> >
> > I believe the Docker API is a simple solution that solves the problem
> > (communication between toolbox and containers).
> >
> > Take a look here
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/shajxIpLJHxxMbFgDXiPuhg/image?w=602&h=461&rev=1423&ac=1&parent=1ySERHGBXbHeyCMRookq5UfTuFkzzU0ugtjvR3rF3deY
> >
> >
> > Em sex., 13 de mar. de 2020 às 11:19, Lucas Cardoso Silva <
> > cardosolucas61....@gmail.com> escreveu:
> >
> > > I thought about using a flask application, which can become very fast
> and
> > > scalable with a Python WSGI server for production like Gunicorn. We can
> > > make the communication establish by HTTPS protocol and use a public and
> > > private key generation system for each engine generated. Another,
> > althougt
> > > complex, alternative would be use OAuth 2.0.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Lucas Cardoso
> > >
> > > Em sex., 13 de mar. de 2020 às 13:58, Daniel Takabayashi <
> > > daniel.takabaya...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> > >
> > > > @Daniel The biggest challenge is to run commands in a remote
> container
> > > > without having access to the whole O.S. Basically the idea is to
> create
> > > an
> > > > interface to make possible, in a secure way the communication
> > > > between Toolbox and remote engines.
> > > >
> > > > Creating this we could start to run our engines in clouds and
> services
> > > like
> > > > Google Run, Kubernetes, Lambda Functions and etc in the same way
> Marvin
> > > > runs locally.
> > > >
> > > > @Lucas Lets talk about the details of these APIs (interfaces,
> > technology)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Taka
> > > >
> > > > Em sex., 13 de mar. de 2020 às 07:21, Daniel Lucredio <
> > > > daniel.lucre...@ufscar.br> escreveu:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Lucas and everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > Couldn't the developer just run the CLI from inside the container,
> > > > opening
> > > > > a shell inside it?
> > > > >
> > > > > []s
> > > > >
> > > > > Daniel
> > > > >
> > > > > Em qui., 5 de mar. de 2020 às 13:31, Lucas Cardoso Silva <
> > > > > cardosolucas61....@gmail.com> escreveu:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I think we could define better how we will make the communication
> > CLI
> > > > > with
> > > > > > the Docker development instance in the new architecture. The
> > > container
> > > > > > needs a running process to stay active. We could make a
> > communication
> > > > via
> > > > > > API endpoints to keep a web service running on the container
> > > receiving
> > > > > > information from the CLI for the execution of tasks in Marvin. I
> > > > created
> > > > > a
> > > > > > use-case scenario to facilitate understanding and further
> > discussion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scenario: A developer created an engine on marvin through the
> CLI,
> > he
> > > > > > configures his engine in order to describe all the dependencies
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > operating system that will be used during development. After the
> > > engine
> > > > > > configuration process, the developer uses the CLI to upload a
> > > > development
> > > > > > environment on a Docker container, that development environment
> > will
> > > > > > contain the refined Marvin toolbox. The CLI then changes its
> > > interface
> > > > in
> > > > > > order to contain the standard commands for using engines. He uses
> > the
> > > > CLI
> > > > > > to communicate with the toolbox endpoints and inform that he
> wants
> > to
> > > > run
> > > > > > an instance of the notebook. After building the model, the
> > developer
> > > > can,
> > > > > > through the CLI, perform a dryrun and upload the http-server for
> > > > testing.
> > > > > > All of these procedures will be done using the communication
> > through
> > > > API
> > > > > > endpoints.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does that sound like a good strategy? Do you have any
> suggestions,
> > or
> > > > > > something that was already foreseen in the original project?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > Lucas Cardoso
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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