Just wanted to express my opinion about new plugins.

I don't think that we should add more plugins to maven, unless they are
really "core plugins".

I think we have quite a lot of dead plugins and many broken plugins,

I like more the idea of having this plugin elsewhere, so original plugin
authors
can take responsibility.

Knowing Aslak's skills I have no doubt that Maven team can give him access
right
to CVS repository to let him maintain this plugin but I want to discuss
general policy regarding this subject.

I think Aslak has a lot of experience with such problems from XDoclet
project.

Simply any plugin which is based on external libraries is very sensitive to
any changes in those
libraries. For example Hibernate, Torque, JBoss plugins will be broken once
there is minor change in
those project. Keeping all plugin up to date in enormous work.

>From the other hand I feel that Maven should have a catalog of known
"foreign" plugins
( in form both of web site, and machine readable file format (XML ?), so any
plugin can be downloaded automatically)

This will not only improve quality of code which is kept in our CVS
repository, but also
will increase the number of people which can actively work on plugins and
having cvs access rights, so
also plugin will be better.


What you think?

Michal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vincent Massol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:54 PM
> To: 'Maven Developers List'
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Simian Plugin (fully documented and ready to use)
>
>
> Hi Aslak,
>
> I love the idea of CPD/Simian. However, before we can commit anything
> here we would need agreement from redhillconsulting.com that we can put
> the simian jar in the Maven remote repository on ibiblio.
>
> If we don�t get this agreement, we could still store this plugin in the
> SF mavne-plugins project and users would need to download the simian jar
> and put it manually in their local repository.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aslak Helles�y [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 24 June 2003 13:58
> > To: Maven Developers List
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Simian Plugin (fully documented and ready to use)
> >
> > It seems Maven's JIRA still doesn't notify this list, so here I go...
> >
> > Simian (http://www.redhillconsulting.com.au/products/simian/index.html
> )
> > is a great little tool that detects duplicate source code. Very much
> > like PMD's CPD (http://pmd.sourceforge.net/cpd.html), but a _lot_
> faster.
> >
> > I have written a Maven report plugin for Simian that I'd like to
> > contribute to Maven. Have a look at some sample reports:
> >
> > http://www.picocontainer.org/simian-report.html
> > http://www.nanocontainer.org/simian-report.html
> >
> > It would be really nice to have the Simian Report included in the
> > standard reports, as it reveals refactoring candidates and is
> something
> > every sound project should have!
> >
> > It's all in JIRA:
> > http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ViewIssue.jspa?key=MAVEN-516
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Aslak
> >
> >
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