Hi Jason,

I'm fine with moving the following: Cactus, checkstyle, jboss, pmd,
statcvs and actually all the other remaining plugins... I still don't
understand why we need to keep any plugin at all in maven core. They can
be downloaded for bootstrapping (in the same way as all the other jars
are).

However, I still have some questions :-)

- are the latest released versions of maven-plugins plugins going to be
packaged in the next release rc2?

- if not, are they going to be bundled for easy installing or would
users need to install them one by one (which would be a pain)?

- now that the plugins are decorelated from Maven core, the plugins need
to state with what version of Maven they have been tested and are
compatible with. How do we do this? Do we need a new pom tag?

- also, now that plugins are externalized it will be more difficult to
converge in term of jar versions between them. You may end up having to
download 10 versions of log4j, etc. I believe we now need more urgently
something like the discussed LATEST (which would point to the latest
released jar):

<dependency>
  <groupId>log4j</groupId>
  <artifactId>log4j</artifactId>
  <version>LATEST</version>
</dependency>

That would probably require the addition of some metadata file in the
remote repo (releases.xml for ex), listing all releases. The default
mode should not connect to internet every time maven builds but rather
only connects on demand.

Thanks!
-Vincent

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 07 October 2003 22:09
> To: Maven Developers List
> Subject: Moving Plugins
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Just another push. If you have plugins that are non-core and you want
me
> to move them over let me know. I think I'm looking at Vincent and
> Emmanuel as the next candidates :-)
> 
> --
> jvz.
> 
> Jason van Zyl
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