Yes, resposibility isn't always good.

Shouldn't simply make the build fail instead of log when such a collision 
happens?

Michael

> Thankfully for you, you are not on the PMC... if you were on the PMC and
> you did such a search you would then have to go and send C&Ds.
> 
> /me runs away from this thread in case I happen to be made aware of any
> trademark misuse ;-)
> 
> On 10 October 2014 13:39, Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Yes
> >
> > On 10 October 2014 13:12, Michael Osipov <1983-01...@gmx.net> wrote:
> >
> >> If you do a quick search on Central, you'll that even other Apache project
> >> don't adhere to this convention. Should they receive a C&D too?
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >> > We just need to show best effort to defend our trademark... if we *see*
> >> > anyone doing that then we have to send them C&D letters...
> >> >
> >> > Note: my understanding is that we only have to send C&D letters when we
> >> > know somebody is abusing our mark... we don't necessarily have to go
> >> > actively looking for people abusing our mark... just if we went looking
> >> and
> >> > found any then we have to send them C&Ds quite quickly
> >> >
> >> > On 10 October 2014 12:45, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Stephen Connolly
> >> > > <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > We, the PMC, agreed to allow permitted usage of the form
> >> ___-maven-plugin
> >> > > > as that clarified that the plugin was a plugin for maven not one
> >> produced
> >> > > > by maven
> >> > >
> >> > > Yea, I know, and I'm not opposed to making the tooling more
> >> > > obstreperous. I'm just warning people not to have high hopes of
> >> > > enforcement for anyone who chooses to hack the tooling and not
> >> > > cooperate.
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 10 October 2014 12:40, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Keep in mind that what we have here is almost certainly a
> >> > > >> _convention_, not a point of trademark law. As I understand it,
> >> we'd
> >> > > >> as likely be laughed at for the suggestion that reversing the
> >> order of
> >> > > >> the components of a name leads to 'marketplace confusion' at the
> >> level
> >> > > >> at which trademarks can be enforced.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Michael Osipov <
> >> 1983-01...@gmx.net>
> >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >> They should rename going forward.
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> At some point (probably we could do so now) we will turn on
> >> > > enforcement
> >> > > >> in
> >> > > >> >> the maven-plugin-plugin.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > This will of course piss of a lot of people. Wouldn't it?
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > There are, of course, several reasons why people can't:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > 1. Popularity of the old name
> >> > > >> > 2. Technical reasons
> >> > > >> > 3. Name collisions
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > etc.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Even if we enforce this, this should not happen before Maven 4
> >> and
> >> > > >> should be added to the plugin dev center.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Michael
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
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