On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Stephen Connolly <
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Benson,
>
> This sounds a bit like a case of owl or nothing...
>




>
>
> * We can see if there are any other of the submissions we received for the
> contest we ran and do a vote off
>
> * we can try and reboot the contest again; or
>
> * we can see if the community is happy with "shotgun the (mostly) friendly
> owl" ;-) and Alte Haas Grotesk Bold Italic
>
> * a final option would be to see if branding could give us a couple of
> hundred dollars to run a design contest on one of the design contest
> sites... When I looked into that option I came to the conclusion that we'd
> either need to get very lucky or we'd need to give a reasonably constrained
> brief as to what we want in a logo & mascot.... Otherwise we risk
> inappropriate use of Native American imagery (or if that's not an issue we
> could use the teepee logo I designed)... Or we end up with a logo that has
> no meaning for the project
>

Here is probably the only place I disagree with you. Good logo's don't have
to start life with meaning; they have to start life as memorable, and then
they acquire meaning by association. Maybe the felix.apache.org logo
resulted from some concept, maybe not, but to me it's purely a distinctive
graphic with at most, a diffuse relationship to content.

Or look at accumulo, which is 'typography + decoration.' The decoration
has, again, a very abstract relationship to the contents.


>
> Right now, my feeling is that the contest ran its course... I really would
> have liked the teepee logo with the feather v... Using just the teepee as a
> mascot... But after taking on board the concerns over usage of Native
> American imagery... After finding other "maven" companies using raven
> logos... My considered opinion is the owl is the best we have
>
> I don't have the energy to do anything other than call a vote to adopt the
> owl and my suggested logo... So if people want to explore the other
> options, please step up speak out and run with it!
>
> If nobody speaks out in the next couple of days I'll call the vote
> (if that would mean a vote over the US centric holiday, I think the vote
> should last a bit longer than 72h)
>

And I'll probably vote for it. The Owl is a big improvement over the
current situation; I wanted to know what our options were.



>
> -Stephen
>
>
> On Monday, November 24, 2014, Sally Khudairi
> <sallykhuda...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Hey Benson --thanks so much for your note.
>>
>> Unfortunately, our donated resources are extremely limited; I'm not sure
>> how we'll be proceeding with the proposed Foundation work given the level
>> of feedback to incorporate.
>>
>> Having said that, several Apache projects, such as Logging, were seeking
>> a new logo for Log4j 2 and put a call for help from the public
>> https://t.co/p633jVyld9 --I'll be happy to help spread the word and
>> assist however needed.
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Sally
>>
>>
>> [From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and
>> brevity]
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Benson Margulies" <bimargul...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Sally Khudairi" <s...@apache.org>, "Maven Developers List" <
>> dev@maven.apache.org>
>> Subject: Graphic Design Assistance?
>> Date: Sun, Nov 23, 2014 21:50
>>
>> Sally,
>> The Maven community would like to update and improve its graphic design.
>> I wondered, based on the work on the overall Foundation site, where there
>> was any donated professional assistance of this kind available to
>> individual communities. We have some volunteer efforts in the direction of
>> a logo/mascot, but we wonder if any assistance is to be had.
>>
>> --benson
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from my phone
>

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