Le mardi 10 mars 2015 01:22:29 Jason van Zyl a écrit : > I agree we're spending too much energy we have a constructive discussion to make a community decision: yes, it costs energy (not so much since the discussion is constructive), but it's useful
> but I don't plan to roll anything > back. I do not want to support the rather large feature set change across > 1.6 and 1.7 because it will be a huge maintenance burden. It's entirely > unrealistic to try and support 1.6 and 1.7 given the activity in the core > by so few. If we cut this release and then we switch to 1.7 the 3.3.0 will > pretty much become instantly dead because I know we'll flip over to 1.7 > features quickly and i doubt anyone is going to backport anything and there > are likely going to be issues with all the new features and then a user is > going to be forced to update anyway to get the fixes. If you want all the > new features then too bad, upgrade to 3.3.0 and use 1.7. I really do not > want to continue developing with 1.6 because I think it's a waste of time > and energy. I perfectly understand this reasoning: and I know I didn't do the backport to 3.0.6 that I prepared because I had the exact same feeling "if you want all the new features then too bad, upgrade", and that our users understand it personnally, I can live with both choices: we have the pros and cons of each and will be able to explain our choice in the release notes Regards, Hervé > On Mar 10, 2015, at 12:56 AM, Kristian Rosenvold <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think we're spending far too much energy on this discussion. Roll back > > to > > 1.6/1.6 and make the 3.4 1.7. > > > > > > Kristian > > > > 2015-03-10 8:50 GMT+01:00 Hervé BOUTEMY <[email protected]>: > >> Java 7, ie 3.2(Java 6)/3.3(Java 7+current changes) > >> or > >> Java 6, ie 3.2(Java 6)/3.3(Java 6+current changes)/3.4(Java 7, ~1 month > >> later) > >> ? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Hervé > >> > >> Le lundi 9 mars 2015 09:35:30 Jason van Zyl a écrit : > >>> Yes, I'll leave it until Wednesday to see if anyone has any issues > >> > >> running > >> > >>> master and then I'll stage the release. > >>> > >>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> notice that this would be a de-facto Maven versionning pattern: > >>>> 2.0 (Java 1.4)/2.1(Java 1.4+changes)/2.2(Java 5) > >>>> 3.0 (Java 5)/3.1(Java 5+changes)/3.2(Java 6) > >>>> > >>>> then 3.2(Java 6)/3.3(Java 6+changes)/3.4(Java 7), if we announce the > >>>> pattern and do the 3.4 release something like one month later (after > >>>> checking that we don't need critical fix on 3.3), could match > >> > >> everybody's > >> > >>>> concern > >>>> > >>>> with such a plan decision, I could go for it > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Hervé > >>>> > >>>> Le dimanche 8 mars 2015 21:43:11 Robert Scholte a écrit : > >>>>> issues for 3.2.6 have already been pushed forward to 3.3.0 *before* > >> > >> the > >> > >>>>> Java7 decision. And that's fine by me. > >>>>> As Dennis already suggested: after 3.3.0 push JDK requirement to 1.7 > >> > >> and > >> > >>>>> call this Maven 3.4.0 > >>>>> A JDK requirement has too much impact for a 3.3.1, but IMHO it's not > >>>>> worth > >>>>> a 4.0.0 > >>>>> Also see previous releases when we moved forward to Java5 (M2.2) and > >>>>> Java6 > >>>>> (M3.2) > >>>>> > >>>>> Op Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:33:38 +0100 schreef Tibor Digana > >>>>> > >>>>> <[email protected]>: > >>>>>> @Robert > >>>>>> source=target=1.7 after M3.3.0? You mean 3.3.1? > >>>>>> A bit strange to make it in an incremental version since a user would > >>>>>> not > >>>>>> imaging a fix version to break the system requirements in his CI > >>>>>> regarding > >>>>>> JDK installation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Currently the release notes for 3.2.6 is empty. > >>>>>> So if there's really nothing to fix in 3.2.6, I would suggest to > >> > >> jump to > >> > >>>>>> 3.3.0 with JDK 7. > >>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG/fixforversion/20821 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >> > >>>>>> View this message in context: > >> http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/move-maven-core-to-java-7-tp5827988p582 > >> > >>>>>> 85 > >>>>>> 22.html Sent from the Maven Developers mailing list archive at > >>>>>> Nabble.com. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Jason > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Jason van Zyl > >>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven > >>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >>> http://twitter.com/takari_io > >>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> A man enjoys his work when he understands the whole and when he > >>> is responsible for the quality of the whole > >>> > >>> -- Christopher Alexander, A Pattern Language > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > Thanks, > > Jason > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Jason van Zyl > Founder, Takari and Apache Maven > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > http://twitter.com/takari_io > --------------------------------------------------------- > > A master in the art of living draws no sharp distinction between his work > and his play; his labor and his leisure; his mind and his body; his > education and his recreation. 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