On 14 April 2015 at 16:50, Hervé BOUTEMY <[email protected]> wrote:

> Le mardi 14 avril 2015 16:34:18 Olivier Lamy a écrit :
> > On 14 April 2015 at 16:11, Hervé BOUTEMY <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > wow, impressive!
> >
> > Definitely agree!!!
> >
> > > what I don't like is that it does not use my wide screen, which is not
> > > great
> > > on some key pages like http://maven.matsuo-it.com/#/plugins/index.html
> >
> > I wonder what sort of resolution you're using?? :-)
> no secret: 1920x1200 = good screen for a desktop,
> I'm sure some laptops are not that far, isn't it?
>
> What resolution do other devs have?
>

Something a bit similar except laptop have smaller screens.
Anyway that's not the problem :-)


>
> And in fact, whatever the resolution is, nowadays we have wide screens: I
> don't like when a layout just don't use it :)
>

Perso I don't think a big page ( with a screen full of text, images etc..)
is useful neither human readable.
Here we talk about documentation so users just want to find the information
ASAP.
And sometimes (IMHO) in pages fully fill in the screen it's just a pain.
But hopefully it turns to be a pattern/tendency for a lot of web sites
(even the most used web site in the world use it :-) )
Again that's a personal opinion :-)


>
> >
> > I wonder if it could be possible to have atfix for left menu? and a mix
> of
> > atfix and scroll spy for right one?
> > See http://getbootstrap.com/javascript/#scrollspy and
> > http://getbootstrap.com/javascript/#affix
> >
> > > but there are a lot of great ideas that proves people can create great
> > > skins!
> > >
> > > Regarding Jekyll and asciidoctor, I have in my todo list to draw a
> picture
> > > of
> > > how maven-site-plugin currently uses reports, Doxia and Doxia
> SiteTools to
> > > render a site with a skin
> > > I'm convinced we can replace Doxia SiteTools without wreaking havoc
> > > What I still don't know is if Jekyll and/or asciidoctor know about a
> > > notion of
> > > skin, ie reusable template
> > >
> > > I will be offline for somthing like 3 weeks: I hope to draw a first
> draft
> > > of the
> > > picture to let time thinking about its improvement during my vacation
> :)
> > >
> > > Then for the current skins r&d, I won't be available at the moment
> > >
> > > But definitely, it's something really interesting: I don't know if we
> have
> > > something like a skins-community to share skins
> > > Nothing at http://maven.apache.org/skins/index.html
> > > But
> > >
> http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-site-plugin/examples/creatingskins.h
> > > tml links "Examples of Existing Skins" to
> > > http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Maven+Skins
> > >
> > > Notice this is a Codehaus MAVENUSER Confluence content, that will
> > > disappear
> > > when Codehaus shuts down: seems like we'll need to migrate at least
> part
> > > of
> > > it, I don't know how, to ASF...
> > > And I hope we can have external contributors on ASF Confluence: once
> again
> > > I
> > > don't know
> > >
> > > I'll try to see what I can do before going offline...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Hervé
> > >
> > > Le mardi 14 avril 2015 00:58:16 Marek Romanowski a écrit :
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I saw Karl's mail about Maven Web Site and I've decided to post some
> > > > questions to you all.
> > > >
> > > > A few months ago I was thinking about how hard would it be to provide
> > > > modern theme for maven generated sites. I wanted to have full project
> > > > documentation within project, ideally generated with standard maven
> > >
> > > tools.
> > >
> > > > Documentation should be usable on mobile devices, and extremely data
> > > > centric, without any distracting parts.
> > > >
> > > > First I've found reflow skin, and basing on it I've created clone
> that
> > >
> > > uses
> > >
> > > > Bootstrap 3.3 - http://tunguski.github.io/msb3-maven-skin (not
> deployed
> > >
> > > in
> > >
> > > > maven central).
> > > >
> > > > But I found working with custom maven site generation extremely hard,
> > > > especially when you compare it to tools like Jekyll.
> > > >
> > > > So I started a research project asking how hard would it be to create
> > > > totally new theme without changing default maven site generation.
> I've
> > > > created proof of concept visible here: http://maven.matsuo-it.com.
> Full
> > > > source code is availible on github:
> > > > https://github.com/tunguski/angular-boostrapize-maven-site.
> > > >
> > > > Generally it is starndard maven site data, but themed using bootstrap
> > >
> > > 3.3.
> > >
> > > > It uses Angular 1.4 for data extraction (from original site), adding
> > > > dynamic elements like menu generation, scroll to top etc. At this
> point
> > >
> > > it
> > >
> > > > probably won't index in search engines at all.
> > > >
> > > > Goals achieved in most part:
> > > > * it looks and works really well on all kinds of devices
> > > > * it has themes changed in seconds - you may choose a skin and
> > >
> > > highlighting
> > >
> > > > theme (upper right corner of the screen)
> > > > * it creates additional menu builded from headers in page content
> > > > * it unifies theme for sites created with default and fluido skin
> > > > * it tries to provide fresh view on javadocs and java sources (it's
> far
> > > > from perfect)
> > > > * it adds simple search of artifacts from search.maven.org
> > > > * it provides proof of concept for dynamic report basing on maven web
> > >
> > > site
> > >
> > > > data - broken links report:
> > > > http://maven.matsuo-it.com/#/_views/reports/linkage.html
> > > >
> > > > Main things that are broken are in-page anchors, no images,
> breadcrumb
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > > page title generation (all listed in readme.md).
> > > >
> > > > Ok, after that very long introduction I'd like to ask you what do you
> > >
> > > think
> > >
> > > > about this simple r&d. I'm especially interested in:
> > > >
> > > > * What do you think about these themes and layout in context of maven
> > >
> > > site?
> > >
> > > > * Would it be useful for Maven community in any part if some specific
> > > > things were finnished? If yes, what could be done?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > Marek Romanowski.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ps.: As it is my first mail on this list, I'd like to thank you all
> for
> > > > outstanding work you are doing!
> > >
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