Sorry for butting in but as someone who is a staunch supporter of Maven within 
my company and its user community, I have to agree that the difficulty in 
engaging the Maven developers to even discuss issues is too high.  I often find 
myself fixing plugins by forking my own private versions since doing anything 
else is too slow/painful.

Sorry for the intrusion...

Robert Patrick <[email protected]>
VP, Oracle Corporation
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On Jun 27, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Tibor Digana <[email protected]> wrote:

>>> And without the ability to verify both the bug and  
> the fix *I* won't apply those patches (unless the code clearly exposes the  
> issue). 
> 
> This is the problem. My colleague told me to have a look in ASF JIRA and see
> how many people provided patches. He said that he dislikes Maven community
> because of this reason they ignore their patches.
> So we should not be wondering that competitors are preferable because they
> can apply Groovy and patch directly in the script without asking us. Unless
> we understand this situation, the Maven will loose the reputation and most
> probably existing users.
> 
> And back to your experiences with applying patches.
> I would at least try to install SCM, like Perforce server, and try to play
> with that. If not possible, I would make a branch and deploy the plugin as
> SNAPSHOT and let the person in Jira to retest it.
> 
> The trick is that the status cannot be worse then it is now. Because if it
> is a good fix then our plugin has one bug less. If the fix is candidate to
> open another bug, then the number of bugs shortly decreased but is not worse
> than it was before.
> 
> Example, what happened in surefire project. User reported bug in 2.18 with
> race condition in parallel tests. I could not reproduce the bug however
> understood the root cause. So we made an agreement that I will fix it in 
> master and let the user test the SNAPSHOT version. He proved good fix.
> Otherwise I would revert the fix from HEAD.
> Sounds this works, hm?
> 
> 
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