versions:display-plugin-updates [1] helps on Maven prerequisite.

But sadly not on Java version compatibility. And AFAIK, Java version 
compatibility evolution for plugins is not something well documented by 
default...

I worked a few years ago on maven-plugin-plugin report [2] to deduct JDK 
requirement, and I thought it was possible to generate a report with the full 
history of JDK requirement of a plugin. But I never implemented it: it's an old 
line in one of my TODO lists...

Regards,

Hervé

[1] 
http://www.mojohaus.org/versions-maven-plugin/display-plugin-updates-mojo.html

[2] https://maven.apache.org/plugin-tools/maven-plugin-plugin/plugin-info.html

Le mardi 15 janvier 2019, 04:22:05 CET Gabriel Belingueres a écrit :
> Hi Tibor:
> So Java version is a concern.
> By API version do you mean Maven API version? I believe this is controlled
> with the <prerequisites> tag inside the plugin's pom file?
> 
> An even simpler solution is to publish a "plugin compatibility matrix" page
> in the web site as some companies do. Check for example Sonarqube [1]. It
> should be easy to create a Java version (columns) vs Plugin version (rows)
> matrix. Same for API version. So to guide the user to pinpoint an specific
> version is to present that URL as part of the warning message.
> 
> [1] https://docs.sonarqube.org/display/PLUG/Plugin+Version+Matrix
> 
> El lun., 14 de ene. de 2019 a la(s) 23:30, Tibor Digana (
> 
> tibordig...@apache.org) escribió:
> > >> However, it seems that the only use case for upgrading the default
> > 
> > plugin versions is compatibility with some specific Java version?
> > 
> > Gabriel, Java version is not the only one reason.
> > There is API version as well and bug fixing.
> > These plugins are especially important because they are bound to the build
> > life cycle.
> > Scaring with making new plugin updates in Maven Core by the same
> > development group would mean almost the same that we did not trust the
> > plugin releases we have made.
> > 
> > >> added value by updating this service from outside of either a maven
> > >> core
> > 
> > I agree with Robert. The XML should be externalized.
> > I understand it the way that this XML would be in the Maven distribution
> > and not in JAR file.
> > There is a similarity with JavaEE idea where configuration is not embedded
> > in the software - apart, but that's a different story.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 11:59 PM Gabriel Belingueres <
> > belingue...@gmail.com>
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > I think I'm joining late to this thread. +1 to showing a warning
> > > message.
> > > 
> > > However, it seems that the only use case for upgrading the default
> > > plugin
> > > versions is compatibility with some specific Java version?
> > > 
> > > How about developing a plugin that "recommends" specific plugin versions
> > > based on the source/target java version? recommendation can be based on
> > > a
> > > downloaded file/database/artifact/web service that the plugin parses?
> > 
> > This
> > 
> > > way you can add some added value by updating this service from outside
> > > of
> > > either a maven core or specific plugin's release cycle.
> > > 
> > > El lun., 14 de ene. de 2019 a la(s) 10:34, Hervé BOUTEMY (
> > > 
> > > herve.bout...@free.fr) escribió:
> > > > PR also created :)
> > > > https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/233
> > > > 
> > > > Le lundi 14 janvier 2019, 12:06:40 CET Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit :
> > > > > MNG-6562 Jira issue [1] and Git branch [2] created: please review
> > > > > and
> > > > > comment
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'll start to work on the new parent POM that locks down versions of
> > > > 
> > > > plugins
> > > > 
> > > > > from default lifecycle bindings: see MPOM-215 [3] I'll do it in a
> > > > 
> > > > personal
> > > > 
> > > > > GitHub git repo first while we choose the final name:
> > > > > maven-default-plugins?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hervé
> > > > > 
> > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-6562
> > > > > 
> > > > > [2]
> > 
> > https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/05bc5c15dd37290e51190c6aa3fe4eb4a5b
> > c
> > 
> > > > > e62c
> > > > > 
> > > > > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MPOM-215
> > > > > 
> > > > > Le dimanche 13 janvier 2019, 11:37:43 CET Robert Scholte a écrit :
> > > > > > This is indeed a good approach.
> > > > > > The first group doesn't care about this warning, the second one
> > > 
> > > should.
> > > 
> > > > > > Hervé, can you confirm that in case of *only* specifying the
> > > > > > latest
> > > > > > maven-jar-plugin or maven-war-plugin or other packaging plugin,
> > > > > > you
> > > > 
> > > > won't
> > > > 
> > > > > > get these warnings.
> > > > > > It really matters where the default lifecycle bindings are comings
> > > > 
> > > > from:
> > > > > > maven-core or packaging plugin.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > All this is an interesting feature worth for 3.7.0
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > Robert
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 04:39:15 +0100, Hervé BOUTEMY <
> > > > 
> > > > herve.bout...@free.fr>
> > > > 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > we have 2 opposite objectives:
> > > > > > > - make default near-empty pom work at best,
> > > > > > > - but force people to have defined plugins versions (then not
> > > 
> > > really
> > > 
> > > > > > > empty pom) to get stable build
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > and I checked about the warning message: I was wrong, there is
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > warning message when plugins without versions are injected by
> > > 
> > > default
> > > 
> > > > > > > lifecycle bindings
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Just test for yourself following pom.xml from any beginner:
> > > > > > >   <project>
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > >     <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>
> > > > > > >     <groupId>com.mycompany.app</groupId>
> > > > > > >     <artifactId>my-app</artifactId>
> > > > > > >     <version>1.0-SNAPSHOT</version>
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > >   </project>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > it works = what we expect to ease newcomers experience
> > > > > > > but there is no warning...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > IMHO, this is where we need to improve the tool, by adding a
> > > 
> > > warning:
> > > > > > > I worked on a PoC of DefaultLifecycleBindingsInjector
> > > > > > > improvement
> > > > 
> > > > that
> > > > 
> > > > > > > displays:
> > > > > > > [WARNING]
> > > > > > > [WARNING] Some problems were encountered while building the
> > > 
> > > effective
> > > 
> > > > > > > model for com.mycompany.app:my-app:jar:1.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > > > > > [WARNING] Using default plugins versions from bindings:
> > > > > > > [org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-clean-plugin,
> > > > > > > org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-install-plugin,
> > > > > > > org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-resources-plugin,
> > > > > > > org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-surefire-plugin,
> > > > > > > org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-compiler-plugin,
> > > > > > > org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-jar-plugin,
> > > > > > > org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-deploy-plugin,
> > > > > > > org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-site-plugin]
> > > > > > > [WARNING]
> > > > > > > [WARNING] It is highly recommended to fix these problems because
> > > 
> > > they
> > > 
> > > > > > > threaten the stability of your build.
> > > > > > > [WARNING]
> > > > > > > [WARNING] For this reason, future Maven versions might no longer
> > > > 
> > > > support
> > > > 
> > > > > > > building such malformed projects.
> > > > > > > [WARNING]
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > With this warning, and a parent pom to have an easy fix (instead
> > > 
> > > of 8
> > > 
> > > > > > > plugins versions definition), IMHO, we have what we strongly
> > 
> > need.
> > 
> > > > > > > And even better, with this warning in place to avoid people to
> > > > 
> > > > continue
> > > > 
> > > > > > > to rely on default plugins versions (because of the nasty
> > > 
> > > warning), I
> > > 
> > > > > > > could find upgrading default plugins versions not an issue any
> > > > 
> > > > more!!!
> > > > 
> > > > > > > Should we try to go this route?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hervé
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Le dimanche 13 janvier 2019, 00:15:38 CET Stephen Connolly a
> > 
> > écrit
> > 
> > > > > > >> The original plan was to make plugin version mandatory. Perhaps
> > > > 
> > > > 3.7.0
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > >> the time to do that, with a CLI option (to be removed after
> > 
> > 3.7.x)
> > 
> > > > to
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> pull
> > > > > > >> in the 3.6.x default versions if your pom is missing plugin
> > > > 
> > > > versions.
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> The warning has been there long enough. Let’s pull the trigger.
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> On Sat 12 Jan 2019 at 21:34, Tibor Digana <
> > 
> > tibordig...@apache.org
> > 
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > I have a strong reason to update Surefire due to new JRE
> > > 
> > > versions
> > > 
> > > > > > >> > have
> > > > > > >> > been
> > > > > > >> > updated too many times last two years.
> > > > > > >> > They required a fix done within a few days and some of them
> > 
> > are
> > 
> > > > > > >> shaking on
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > the chair...
> > > > > > >> > Our Maven Core is stable and Java 9+ ready but the obsolete
> > > > 
> > > > plugins
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> are
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > not.
> > > > > > >> > I want only the same compatibility with default plugins
> > 
> > because
> > 
> > > > > > >> people do
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > not see these plugins as a distinct community. They are both
> > > 
> > > Maven
> > > 
> > > > > > >> > and
> > > > > > >> > plugins from us Apache, so they most probably would expect it
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> consistent
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > altogether.
> > > > > > >> > Makes sense?
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 7:24 PM Bernd Eckenfels
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> <e...@zusammenkunft.net>
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > I think that’s a real bad idea if you have to do local
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> modifications to
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > get to a working build environment. Maven is all about not
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> requiring you
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > to
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > do that (anymore). So even requiring a certain Maven
> > > > > > >> > > Version
> > > > 
> > > > does
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> not
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > fit
> > > > > > >> > > in that pattern (although unavoidable if you do not want to
> > > 
> > > work
> > > 
> > > > > > >> with
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > wrappers).
> > > > > > >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > So this means: keep old standard versions and overwrite
> > > > > > >> > > them
> > > > 
> > > > always
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> in
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > poms. (And it means the amount of default versions should
> > > > > > >> > > be
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> reduced or
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > at
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > least not add new ones)
> > > > > > >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > Gruss
> > > > > > >> > > Bernd
> > > > > > >> > > --
> > > > > > >> > > http://bernd.eckenfels.net
> > > > > > >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > ________________________________
> > > > > > >> > > Von: Robert Scholte <rfscho...@apache.org>
> > > > > > >> > > Gesendet: Samstag, Januar 12, 2019 5:07 PM
> > > > > > >> > > An: Maven Developers List
> > > > > > >> > > Betreff: Re: Update versions of all plugins in
> > > > 
> > > > default-bindings.xml
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > I had chats with both Adam Bien and Sebastian Daschner
> > 
> > asking
> > 
> > > > for a
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > better
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > way to work with a simple high-speed throw-away development
> > > 
> > > pom.
> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > They are both working a lot with Java EE applications and
> > 
> > want
> > 
> > > > to
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> rely
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > on
> > > > > > >> > > defaults as much as possible.
> > > > > > >> > > So in a way they don't care about plugin versions.
> > > > > > >> > > They only case about things in poms that does matter
> > > > > > >> > > (unique
> > > 
> > > to
> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > that
> > > > > > >> > > project): dependencies
> > > > > > >> > > However, with Java 9+ stuff they are forced to specify
> > 
> > plugins
> > 
> > > > with
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> more
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > recent versions right now.
> > > > > > >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > So here comes the idea of extensions: you can put it in
> > > > > > >> > > your
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > maven/lib/ext
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > ONCE and your pom is again as clean as possible.
> > > > > > >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > This seems to be a common way of work for some kind of
> > > > 
> > > > developers
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> and it
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > would make sense if Maven could support this.
> > > > > > >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > To me default plugin versions are bound to a minor Maven
> > > > 
> > > > release,
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> not a
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > major.
> > > > > > >> > > When starting with Maven and create your first hello world,
> > 
> > it
> > 
> > > > > > >> should
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > work
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > out of the box.
> > > > > > >> > > Right now if you are using Java 11, you'll probably hit
> > 
> > issues
> > 
> > > > > > >> because
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > some defaults won't work anymore.
> > > > > > >> > > That's a bad thing to me and a valid reason to upgrade the
> > > > 
> > > > plugins.
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > I do understand Hervé concerns. We should motivate people
> > > > > > >> > > to
> > > > 
> > > > lock
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> their
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > plugins in their pom.
> > > > > > >> > > Most of all the packaging-plugin is important. AFAIK all
> > 
> > 3.0+
> > 
> > > > > > >> versions
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > contain plugin bindings, in which case it should be good
> > > 
> > > enough
> > > 
> > > > if
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > plugin is at least specified.
> > > > > > >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > thanks,
> > > > > > >> > > Robert
> > > > > > >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 16:24:31 +0100, Hervé BOUTEMY
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> <herve.bout...@free.fr
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > original idea, let's try to evaluate :)
> > > > > > >> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > > IMHO this could work for packaging plugins in default
> > > > 
> > > > lifecycle,
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > are
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > > defined in default-bindings.xml, but would not for other
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> lifecycles
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > that
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > > are
> > > > > > >> > > > configured in components.xml (without copy/pasting
> > > > > > >> > > > content
> > > 
> > > not
> > > 
> > > > > > >> related
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > to
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > > plugins)
> > > > > > >> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > > I don't think an extension would be easier to use than a
> > > > 
> > > > pom.xml,
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> it's
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > > even
> > > > > > >> > > > IMHO worse since you have to create a new file in a new
> > > > > > >> > > > directory.
> > > > > > >> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > > one question is: is there a use case that an extension
> > 
> > would
> > 
> > > > > > >> permit
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > that
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > > a
> > > > > > >> > > > parent pom would not?
> > > > > > >> > > > the only case I see is if a user does not want to change
> > 
> > his
> > 
> > > > > > >> parent
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > > pom
> > > > > > >> > > > (or
> > > > > > >> > > > cannot): since we don't have "pluginManagement import"
> > 
> > (like
> > 
> > > > we
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> have
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > for
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > > dependency management).
> > > > > > >> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > > I think for the moment that a parent pom would be more
> > > > 
> > > > classical,
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > easier
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > > to
> > > > > > >> > > > explain: I don't really see a clear benefit to do the job
> > 
> > as
> > 
> > > > an
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > extension
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > > instead, this would IMHO make the change harder for users
> > > > > > >> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > > Hervé
> > > > > > >> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > > Le samedi 12 janvier 2019, 15:42:57 CET Robert Scholte a
> > > > 
> > > > écrit :
> > > > > > >> > > >> Just wondering, can this be solved by an extension?
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> So instead of changing this in Maven Core itself, people
> > > 
> > > can
> > > 
> > > > add
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> an
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> extension to Maven with the latest+stable releases.
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> Hervé and I already discovered that current focus is
> > 
> > mainly
> > 
> > > > on
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> plugins
> > > > > > >> > > >> right now. We should also work on extensions.
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> Robert
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 15:37:23 +0100, Hervé BOUTEMY
> > > > > > >> > > >> <herve.bout...@free.fr>
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >> > Le vendredi 11 janvier 2019, 12:55:03 CET Tibor Digana
> > 
> > a
> > 
> > > > écrit
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> ok, Herve, the fact is that these plugins have been
> > > > 
> > > > updated
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> from
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> time to
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> time.
> > > > > > >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > yes, we did it in the past (years ago, look at the
> > > 
> > > history)
> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > and
> > > > > > >> > > >> > went
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> to
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > the
> > > > > > >> > > >> > conclusion we should not do that to improve
> > > > 
> > > > reproducibility,
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> unless
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > there is a
> > > > > > >> > > >> > strong reason to do it sometimes on some specific
> > 
> > plugins
> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > = what I'm trying to explain, for the moment without
> > 
> > much
> > 
> > > > > > >> success
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > What we could do would be to create a new POM to use
> > > > > > >> > > >> > as
> > > > 
> > > > parent
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> POM,
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> that
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > would
> > > > > > >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > define the versions of every plugin from the default
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> lifecycles:
> > > > > > >> > this
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > would
> > > > > > >> > > >> > avoid to have everybody to write the full list of
> > 
> > plugins
> > 
> > > > > > >> (which is
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > a
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > pain: I
> > > > > > >> > > >> > know because in MARCHETYPES-54 [1] I added the list in
> > > > 
> > > > Maven
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > Archetypes...)
> > > > > > >> > > >> > We could name it "maven-default-plugins", or if
> > 
> > somebody
> > 
> > > > has a
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > better
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > idea.
> > > > > > >> > > >> > This way, changing plugins versions would not be tied
> > 
> > to
> > 
> > > > > > >> changing
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> Maven
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > version
> > > > > > >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > WDYT?
> > > > > > >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > Regards,
> > > > > > >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > Hervé
> > > > > > >> > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> > [1]
> > 
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MARCHETYPES-54
> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> How can we be on safe side with these updates? What
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> is
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> mandatory
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> to
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> do
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> for
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> such upgrade?
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 7:41 AM Hervé BOUTEMY <
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > herve.bout...@free.fr
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > As I wrote in many Jira issues over years on this
> > > 
> > > topic,
> > > 
> > > > > > >> I'm not
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > in
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> favor
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > of
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > that
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > To me, staying with the same default plugins
> > 
> > versions
> > 
> > > > from
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> Maven
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> version
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > to
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > Maven version is a feature: nobody should expect to
> > > > 
> > > > change
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> his
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> Maven
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > version
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > to change the plugins versions
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > The best practice is to define plugins versions in
> > > 
> > > your
> > > 
> > > > > > >> pom.xml
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > (or
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > parent).
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > Getting very old versions of plugins by default is
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > > > best
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> additional
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > feature
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > we have after the WARN "plugin version not defined"
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > Then IMHO, upgrading default plugins versions is a
> > 
> > bad
> > 
> > > > > > >> idea, is
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > a
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> bad
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > message
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > = "you can continue to ignore the WARN on plugins
> > > > 
> > > > versions
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> still
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> get
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > newest and latest plugins"
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > this leads IMHO to one (bad) reason for people to
> > > > 
> > > > require
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> Maven
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> Wrapper
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > I know, this is counter intuitive, that's why it is
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> required to
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> really
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > take a
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > moment to think about it
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > Regards,
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > Hervé
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > Le jeudi 10 janvier 2019, 17:08:57 CET Tibor Digana
> > 
> > a
> > 
> > > > écrit
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > Why we use old versions in default-bindings.xml?
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > Can we update all versions in 3.6.1 release?
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > Here is MNG-6557 which is related to Surefire but
> > 
> > I
> > 
> > > > guess
> > > > 
> > > > > > >> this
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> Jira
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > issue
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > can be freely related to all plugins.
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > WDYT?
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > Any objections to update all plugins and assign
> > 
> > this
> > 
> > > > > > >> issue in
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> 3.6.1?
> > > > > > >> > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > Cheers
> > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > Tibor
> > > > 
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