On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 03:14, Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Il mer 27 mar 2019, 18:10 Tibor Digana <tibordig...@apache.org> ha
> scritto:
>
> > Enrico, what i maintenance release for you, 2.22.2-M1?
> >
>
> 2.22.2 without suffix
>

+1
@Tibor if you are too busy maybe Enrico can cut the release if he has time.


>
>
> Enrico
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 6:07 PM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Stephane
> > > thank you so much.
> > > I think we will be able to cut a maintenaince release soon with your
> > > branch.
> > >
> > > Maybe you can join us in chat with https://s.apache.org/slack-invite
> > > #maven <https://s.apache.org/slack-invite#maven> channel
> > >
> > >
> > > Enrico
> > >
> > > Il giorno mer 27 mar 2019 alle ore 15:45 Tibor Digana
> > > <tibordig...@apache.org> ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > Stephane, What exists in our agreement are two issues (SUREFIRE-1546
> > and
> > > > SUREFIRE-1614), you will have them but no multiple releases (not
> > > effective
> > > > in the perspectives of out spare time).
> > > > We need people like you who will support us in 3.0.0-M4. This is the
> > main
> > > > goal.
> > > > The issues SUREFIRE-1546 and SUREFIRE-1614 will be delivered to you,
> > but
> > > no
> > > > more and not less.
> > > > The thing is how you will participate by your hands in Java code. The
> > > > result depends on you.
> > > > But again, this what we solve here is not important for ASF. It is
> > > > important for you and your agenda.
> > > > For the project is important the deal we made several years ago, when
> > we
> > > > planned to provide Extensions API for the Users. To get there we need
> > to
> > > > unfortunately rework internal code in Surefire project which takes
> > > really a
> > > > lots of time and spends private energy, and thus 2.22.2 is less
> > important
> > > > from this perspective. We have to support long standing vision but
> the
> > > > version 2.22.2 is something short lasting which you and some Spring
> > guys
> > > > wanted due to they have a problem* with their own internal rules* and
> > > > technically Spring project can solve this problem with 3.0.0-M3.
> > > Therefore
> > > > we are wasting the time if we write the code for you. Therefore you
> > > should
> > > > provide pull request by yourself as this is OSS and we can make a
> code
> > > > review. But our effort would be really only short time relevant if we
> > > > dedicate too much time in 2.22.2 with these two Jira issues. We have
> > few
> > > > active Java developers and "stealing" them for your activity means
> that
> > > we
> > > > are not effective and slow. Therefore, Stephane pls prepare the
> commits
> > > on
> > > > your responsibility on GitHub in your pull request and we can invest
> > the
> > > > time to check it including the build check and cutting the release
> > > version.
> > > >
> > > > T
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 8:11 AM Stephane Nicoll <
> > > stephane.nic...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 12:26 PM Tibor Digana <
> > tibordig...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Stephane,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> I wanted to make sure that the JUnit5 story was functional
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I really don't like politics.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What's that supposed to mean? If you want to quote something,
> please
> > > quote
> > > > > the full sentence. The full sentence is *"I wanted to make sure
> that
> > > the
> > > > > JUnit5 story was functional with the vintage engine and the current
> > GA
> > > of
> > > > > surefire." *which I believe is an accurate description of the
> current
> > > > > situation.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Did you see SUREFIRE-1614?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I did, that's the issue I backported. What are you talking about?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > It really does not
> > > > > > break functionality (only affects logger) and SUREFIRE-1614 is
> not
> > > worth
> > > > > of
> > > > > > making release with single improvement. If you want to be
> > > consistent, you
> > > > > > should stand on your original list of issues in your first email
> > and
> > > this
> > > > > > is: SUREFIRE-1546 and SUREFIRE-1614.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I wanted to but someone from the JUnit team said that backporting
> > that
> > > > > second issue "makes no sense". What am I supposed to do with that
> > > > > information exactly?
> > > > >
> > > > > At the end of the day, you decide what the outcome of this request
> > has
> > > to
> > > > > be. Spring Boot can't upgrade its base usage to JUnit 5 because it
> > > does not
> > > > > work properly when combined with the vintage engine. That's all I
> am
> > > trying
> > > > > to fix.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also think that It doesn't matter how many issues you have fixed
> > in a
> > > > > maintenance release as long as that helps the community. Others
> > members
> > > > > here have expressed a +1 to that proposal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > S.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > We in Slack discuss technical details what we do in milestone
> > > versions.
> > > > > > Enrico and Christian are active developers but we need to have
> more
> > > > > > developers like you Stephane and I would appreciate to have
> > > additionally
> > > > > > the previous developers on the board as well and grow the team,
> > i.e.
> > > > > > Andreas and Kristian.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Tibor
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 5:11 PM Stephane Nicoll <
> > > > > stephane.nic...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for having a look Tibor!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 4:37 PM Tibor Digana <
> > > tibordig...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The diff looks good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Stephane, I guess this only 50% work you wanted to have.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I wanted to make sure that the JUnit5 story was functional with
> > the
> > > > > > vintage
> > > > > > > engine and the current GA of surefire. It looks like this
> change
> > > does
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > job for us.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for the other change, I read Christan's reply, quoting
> below:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *supporting "@DisplayName" and therefore also
> > > > > > > backportinghttps://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SUREFIRE-1546
> > > > > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SUREFIRE-1546> to the
> 2.x
> > > > > branch
> > > > > > > makesalmost *no* sense to me. *
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As you've explained, backporting this change would be more
> > > challenging
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > it looks like it isn't a blocker in its current form anyway so
> I
> > > have
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > opinion as how we should proceed. If the team feels that
> > > backporting it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > important, I can give it another go.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > S.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let's not make too many versions because this would be a
> > > precedent.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Question about JUnit5 display name. Currently our solution
> > turns
> > > XML
> > > > > > file
> > > > > > > > name and XML content to the textual display name and not
> fully
> > > > > > qualified
> > > > > > > > class name. This means that the class name would not appear
> in
> > > the
> > > > > file
> > > > > > > > name of XML report. We want to give the user chance to
> > configure
> > > this
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > 3.0.0-M4 and alter this behavior. So it's good to make a
> > > consensus
> > > > > here
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > agree on it. I prefer more complex configuration with MOJO
> > > parameter
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > > Object and not boolean. Since currently we have
> > > > > > > > *StatelessXmlReporter.java*,
> > > > > > > > I prefer opening the internal impl with this parameter in
> > plugin
> > > > > > > > configuration and alter the behavior in POM or in user's Java
> > > code:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <stateless-reporter
> > > > > > > >
> > > impl="org.apace.maven.plugin.surefire.report.StatelessXmlReporter">
> > > > > > <!--
> > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > default -->
> > > > > > > >     <useFileName>human readable</useFileName> <!-- default:
> > fully
> > > > > > > qualified
> > > > > > > > class name -->
> > > > > > > >     <useTestCaseClass>human readable</ useTestCaseClass>
> > > > > > > >     <useTestCaseMethod>human readable</ useTestCaseMethod>
> > > > > > > > </ stateless-reporter>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If somebody prefers streaming the report on the fly to YAML,
> we
> > > can
> > > > > > > provide
> > > > > > > > same for Stateful reporter interface.
> > > > > > > > Unfortunately all three attributes of the object must have
> same
> > > > > > settings
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > 2.x. The reason is that it is not possible to have it so
> sooth
> > > > > behaving
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > 2.x. We in 3.0 rework internal implementation, a lot of
> > classes,
> > > to
> > > > > > > support
> > > > > > > > many new features/fixes (support this in JUnit5 Provider and
> > > > > > additionally
> > > > > > > > to resolve critical bugs, ...).
> > > > > > > > But the benefit in this concept is that we define it once and
> > we
> > > > > won't
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > any reason to change this concept again in another version.
> > > > > > > > Makes sense?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > Tibor
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 3:38 PM Stephane Nicoll <
> > > > > > > stephane.nic...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can someone working on surefire confirm the interest of
> > > creating
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > branch in the main repo and kick-off a release if a review
> is
> > > > > > > > satisfactory?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > S.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 4:09 PM Stephane Nicoll <
> > > > > > > > stephane.nic...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I've created a `2.22.x` branch based on the 2.22.1 tag
> and
> > > I've
> > > > > > > > > > cherry-picked the issue we need to get proper support for
> > the
> > > > > > vintage
> > > > > > > > > > engine[1]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This 2.22.2-SNAPSHOT works for our purpose so I was
> > > wondering if
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > fixes could be backported and/or if someone would like to
> > > review
> > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > S.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > [1]
> https://github.com/snicoll/maven-surefire/tree/2.22.x
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 1:46 PM Tibor Digana <
> > > > > > tibordig...@apache.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> Hi  Stephane,
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> We are talking only about these two commits [1]?
> > > > > > > > > >> Notice that 001e807 modifies file names to the verbose
> one
> > > which
> > > > > > > > breaks
> > > > > > > > > >> backwards compatibility and this should not forcibly (by
> > > > > default)
> > > > > > > > happen
> > > > > > > > > >> in
> > > > > > > > > >> your version/branch.
> > > > > > > > > >> Try to fork the project, make a local branch and then
> > reset
> > > HEAD
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > [2],
> > > > > > > > > >> i.e. git reset --hard
> > > 19006aa70f36705f399b8c105a16f636904f00f3
> > > > > > > > > >> And then cherrypick both commits [1].
> > > > > > > > > >> Make sure the order is correct but it won't be so
> > > > > straightforward.
> > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > >> tests have to pass (mvn install -P run-its).
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> [1]:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/maven-surefire/commit/f517d349ede0e15229e3c48f45d10dabc72a3fc9
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/maven-surefire/commit/001e8075b8db7861aaefb5af4c256d919a9b2e7a
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> [2]:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/maven-surefire/commit/19006aa70f36705f399b8c105a16f636904f00f3
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Cheers
> > > > > > > > > >> Tibor
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:54 AM Stephane Nicoll <
> > > > > > > > > >> stephane.nic...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > It's great to see the progress on Surefire 3.0 and I
> > > wanted to
> > > > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > > >> out to
> > > > > > > > > >> > discuss a practicable problem with the 2.x line. There
> > > are a
> > > > > > > number
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > >> > fixes for JUnit 5 that are only available in the 3.x
> > line
> > > that
> > > > > > > isn't
> > > > > > > > > GA
> > > > > > > > > >> > yet. [1][2]
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > Putting my Spring Boot hat for a min, this actually
> > > prevents
> > > > > us
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > >> > upgrading our test support to JUnit 5: our plan is to
> > > offer
> > > > > > > maximum
> > > > > > > > > >> > flexibility by providing the vintage engine (so that
> > > users can
> > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > >> their
> > > > > > > > > >> > tests and migrate at their own pace).
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > We can't upgrade to a milestone as our upgrade policy
> > > prevents
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > >> > (regardless of how stable this is and especially since
> > > > > backward
> > > > > > > > > >> > incompatible changes have been pushed to the latest
> > > > > milestone).
> > > > > > So
> > > > > > > > > we're
> > > > > > > > > >> > kind of stuck.
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > Would there be an appetite to backport those fixes and
> > > > > release a
> > > > > > > > > 2.22.2?
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >> > S.
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > [1]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SUREFIRE-1614
> > > > > > > > > >> > [2]
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SUREFIRE/issues/SUREFIRE-1546
> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >>
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